[BostonCard]

Agree on Haas unless Oakland allowing ship to dock comes back to bite Alameda County or conflict with fact that Cal students now online.

I don't think so, unless they are being very sloppy on disembarkation and the workers at the port meet them without precautions.  But I don't think they are going to allow passengers to just disembark and run around willy nilly in Alameda county.

BC

[BostonCard]

Agree on Haas unless Oakland allowing ship to dock comes back to bite Alameda County or conflict with fact that Cal students now online.

I don't think so, unless they are being very sloppy on disembarkation and the workers at the port meet them without precautions.  But I don't think they are going to allow passengers to just disembark and run around willy nilly in Alameda county.

BC

[76lsjumb]

Stanford is not sending the band to the Pac 12 men's tournament in Las Vegas. The band was present at the women's tournament.

Every cloud has its silver lining. . . .

Women made the P12 finals.
After Stanford loses to Cal in R1, will you reconsider your position re: band presence?

More generally, I smh at the band-bashing.  All they do is support the athletic program - across so many sports - like no other group on campus.  Certainly at the hoops games, I say we need more of the LSJUMB, not less.

Hey teejers, as you know, there are a lot of folks who think COVID-19 and LSJUMB are pretty much just two versions of the same thing...  :-)

Is the Weenie Band going to be in Vegas?

[76lsjumb]

Stanford is not sending the band to the Pac 12 men's tournament in Las Vegas. The band was present at the women's tournament.

Every cloud has its silver lining. . . .

Women made the P12 finals.
After Stanford loses to Cal in R1, will you reconsider your position re: band presence?

More generally, I smh at the band-bashing.  All they do is support the athletic program - across so many sports - like no other group on campus.  Certainly at the hoops games, I say we need more of the LSJUMB, not less.

Hey teejers, as you know, there are a lot of folks who think COVID-19 and LSJUMB are pretty much just two versions of the same thing...  :-)

Is the Weenie Band going to be in Vegas?

[stupac2]

Grindr students are being sent home.

Now there's a university I didn't know existed!

[stupac2]

Grindr students are being sent home.

Now there's a university I didn't know existed!

[Snorlax94]

Sounds like Democrats and Republicans are united in not liking Trump's proposed stimulus (my personal opinion is that with the 10-year treasury at 0.5%, some fiscal stimulus may be warranted, and I think payroll holidays make sense)


BC

I think most everyone is in agreement that some stimulus is a good idea.  The question is how to get it to those who do (or soon will) need it most.  I'm thinking about servers, bartenders, drivers, etc. who stand a good chance of losing income or losing their jobs outright if people stop going out or are legally prohibited from doing so.  For those people, a small tax cut does nothing.  Ditto for all the contractors and gig workers.

A much better idea is to just send checks to everyone.  Ultimately, I think something like this has to happen, otherwise we're soon going to end up with a of immense proportions number of evictions and foreclosures.  There are loads of people who are one or two missed paychecks away from homelessness.  Tax cuts won't help them.

I wouldn't say everyone agrees stimulus is a good idea, but if I were to recommend a package, it should focus on encouraging behaviors that would decrease the spread of virus.

1) I'd create a national sick leave for employees, and make it permanent. Guaranteed sick leave could save many lives every year.

2) I'd temporarily increase unemployment benefits. A lot of people in hospitality and service industries could lose their jobs. If we paid more unemployment and increased the duration of benefits and told people to hunker down, they'd be able to do so.

3) If a #3 was needed, I'd find a way to mitigate any supply shock. China could become reinfected again and again over the next two years. If a factory can't make widgets because certain raw materials or subassemblies aren't available, targeted programs can try to help businesses get what they need to continue and grow.

4) I do think some relief should come to the hospitality and related industries at some point, but first I would structure it around incentivizing reducing travel and making travel safer. As long as there is a pandemic, all flights to or from growing areas of transmission should be refundable. All hotel stays to or from areas of transmission should be refundable. Cruises should be refundable. Then, the government can look at relief to offset these added restrictions. 

Also, the cruise industry needs to be more heavily regulated, permanently. That one's been kind of obvious for many years.

Yet somehow I think what the government will propose is to line the pockets of hotel owners and large corporations, who are already wealthy and can weather a slowdown, and if anything may encourage travel, rather than trying to reduce it. The only part of a payroll holiday I agree with is that it will provide some relief to small business owners, many of him will be hit hard, but I think that aid should be more targeted. For starters, you could limit the payroll holiday to businesses with fewer than 50 employees. Google doesn't need a tax cut, they aren't going to go bankrupt because of this.

[Snorlax94]

Sounds like Democrats and Republicans are united in not liking Trump's proposed stimulus (my personal opinion is that with the 10-year treasury at 0.5%, some fiscal stimulus may be warranted, and I think payroll holidays make sense)


BC

I think most everyone is in agreement that some stimulus is a good idea.  The question is how to get it to those who do (or soon will) need it most.  I'm thinking about servers, bartenders, drivers, etc. who stand a good chance of losing income or losing their jobs outright if people stop going out or are legally prohibited from doing so.  For those people, a small tax cut does nothing.  Ditto for all the contractors and gig workers.

A much better idea is to just send checks to everyone.  Ultimately, I think something like this has to happen, otherwise we're soon going to end up with a of immense proportions number of evictions and foreclosures.  There are loads of people who are one or two missed paychecks away from homelessness.  Tax cuts won't help them.

I wouldn't say everyone agrees stimulus is a good idea, but if I were to recommend a package, it should focus on encouraging behaviors that would decrease the spread of virus.

1) I'd create a national sick leave for employees, and make it permanent. Guaranteed sick leave could save many lives every year.

2) I'd temporarily increase unemployment benefits. A lot of people in hospitality and service industries could lose their jobs. If we paid more unemployment and increased the duration of benefits and told people to hunker down, they'd be able to do so.

3) If a #3 was needed, I'd find a way to mitigate any supply shock. China could become reinfected again and again over the next two years. If a factory can't make widgets because certain raw materials or subassemblies aren't available, targeted programs can try to help businesses get what they need to continue and grow.

4) I do think some relief should come to the hospitality and related industries at some point, but first I would structure it around incentivizing reducing travel and making travel safer. As long as there is a pandemic, all flights to or from growing areas of transmission should be refundable. All hotel stays to or from areas of transmission should be refundable. Cruises should be refundable. Then, the government can look at relief to offset these added restrictions. 

Also, the cruise industry needs to be more heavily regulated, permanently. That one's been kind of obvious for many years.

Yet somehow I think what the government will propose is to line the pockets of hotel owners and large corporations, who are already wealthy and can weather a slowdown, and if anything may encourage travel, rather than trying to reduce it. The only part of a payroll holiday I agree with is that it will provide some relief to small business owners, many of him will be hit hard, but I think that aid should be more targeted. For starters, you could limit the payroll holiday to businesses with fewer than 50 employees. Google doesn't need a tax cut, they aren't going to go bankrupt because of this.

[82lsju]

Gov. Cuomo announced plans Tuesday to establish a mile-wide “containment zone” over the next two weeks in the coronavirus hotbed of New Rochelle, home to the most reported cases of the ailment anywhere in the country.

The affected area of the city will include schools, houses of worship and “major gathering places" — all to be closed down from this Wednesday through March 25 as part of the effort to stem the spread of the potentially lethal virus in the city that became the outbreak’s epicenter, the governor said.

“It is a dramatic action, but it is the largest cluster in the country,” the governor said. “This is a matter of life and death."

...
The National Guard was also moved into a Health Department command post in New Rochelle as part of the more-aggressive approach to halting the spread of coronavirus. The troops will help with scrubbing the designated public spaces in the danger zone and with delivering food to local residents once the containment area opens.
...
Cuomo made it clear that the new approach would not block people from moving in and out of the designated area or affect local businesses. The intent is to prevent people gathering in public facilities where the virus might be more easily spread

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/...dium=email

[82lsju]

Gov. Cuomo announced plans Tuesday to establish a mile-wide “containment zone” over the next two weeks in the coronavirus hotbed of New Rochelle, home to the most reported cases of the ailment anywhere in the country.

The affected area of the city will include schools, houses of worship and “major gathering places" — all to be closed down from this Wednesday through March 25 as part of the effort to stem the spread of the potentially lethal virus in the city that became the outbreak’s epicenter, the governor said.

“It is a dramatic action, but it is the largest cluster in the country,” the governor said. “This is a matter of life and death."

...
The National Guard was also moved into a Health Department command post in New Rochelle as part of the more-aggressive approach to halting the spread of coronavirus. The troops will help with scrubbing the designated public spaces in the danger zone and with delivering food to local residents once the containment area opens.
...
Cuomo made it clear that the new approach would not block people from moving in and out of the designated area or affect local businesses. The intent is to prevent people gathering in public facilities where the virus might be more easily spread

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/...dium=email

[OutsiderFan]

BOOM:

No state is as sports-crazed as Ohio. CA should be following suit. My confidence March Madness would be cancelled is looking justified. This thing is moving REALLY fast. and it FEELS like something has shifted today from concern to mobilization.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/11W/status/1237468575910281216[/tweet]

[OutsiderFan]

BOOM:

No state is as sports-crazed as Ohio. CA should be following suit. My confidence March Madness would be cancelled is looking justified. This thing is moving REALLY fast. and it FEELS like something has shifted today from concern to mobilization.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/11W/status/1237468575910281216[/tweet]

[oldalum]

Totally agree.  As I've gotten older, I've found them less funny, but that's not what they are there for.

Yes. Outside of football games, all they do is play music. And listening to them at basketball games this season, maybe as a result of the music lessons I heard the athletic dept. paid for, they sound better and are playing a much greater variety of music.

[oldalum]

Totally agree.  As I've gotten older, I've found them less funny, but that's not what they are there for.

Yes. Outside of football games, all they do is play music. And listening to them at basketball games this season, maybe as a result of the music lessons I heard the athletic dept. paid for, they sound better and are playing a much greater variety of music.

[2006alum]

Ohio Governor (former U.S. Republican Senator Mike DeWine) has called on all schools and universities in Ohio to hold spectatorless sporting events.

[2006alum]

Ohio Governor (former U.S. Republican Senator Mike DeWine) has called on all schools and universities in Ohio to hold spectatorless sporting events.

[Bruce Wang]

If Stanford MBB fails to make The Dance, it is missing a golden opportunity.  More so than any other team in the field, they are accustomed to playing in empty arenas.

[Bruce Wang]

If Stanford MBB fails to make The Dance, it is missing a golden opportunity.  More so than any other team in the field, they are accustomed to playing in empty arenas.

[2006alum]

If Stanford MBB fails to make The Dance, it is missing a golden opportunity.  More so than any other team in the field, they are accustomed to playing in empty arenas.

Last season Stanford averaged close to 50% attendance at Maples. Hardly empty. Not to mention, fairweather fan comments like these are self-reinforcing - who wants to go to a game when half the fans are taking a cr@p on the team?

[2006alum]

If Stanford MBB fails to make The Dance, it is missing a golden opportunity.  More so than any other team in the field, they are accustomed to playing in empty arenas.

Last season Stanford averaged close to 50% attendance at Maples. Hardly empty. Not to mention, fairweather fan comments like these are self-reinforcing - who wants to go to a game when half the fans are taking a cr@p on the team?

[BostonCard]

Grindr students are being sent home.

Now there's a university I didn't know existed!

LOL, when I saw the autocorrect, I figured there was certainly to be an incoming from CowboyIndian.

BC

[BostonCard]

Grindr students are being sent home.

Now there's a university I didn't know existed!

LOL, when I saw the autocorrect, I figured there was certainly to be an incoming from CowboyIndian.

BC

[cardcrimson]

If Stanford MBB fails to make The Dance, it is missing a golden opportunity.  More so than any other team in the field, they are accustomed to playing in empty arenas.

Last season Stanford averaged close to 50% attendance at Maples. Hardly empty. Not to mention, fairweather fan comments like these are self-reinforcing - who wants to go to a game when half the fans are taking a cr@p on the team?

Come on, relax. Brought a chuckle from me, much needed these days

And if the comment is taking a cr@p on anyone, it's the fair-weather fans. . . .

[cardcrimson]

If Stanford MBB fails to make The Dance, it is missing a golden opportunity.  More so than any other team in the field, they are accustomed to playing in empty arenas.

Last season Stanford averaged close to 50% attendance at Maples. Hardly empty. Not to mention, fairweather fan comments like these are self-reinforcing - who wants to go to a game when half the fans are taking a cr@p on the team?

Come on, relax. Brought a chuckle from me, much needed these days

And if the comment is taking a cr@p on anyone, it's the fair-weather fans. . . .

[cardcrimson]

Impacting future Stanford swimmers, Pasadena has apparently pulled the plug on the spring So Cal Junior Olympics that were scheduled to be held at the Rose Bowl Aquatic center this weekend. Other swimming events around the country have been cancelled, some still on.

https://swimswam.com/southern-california...uYri-nKmx0

[cardcrimson]

Impacting future Stanford swimmers, Pasadena has apparently pulled the plug on the spring So Cal Junior Olympics that were scheduled to be held at the Rose Bowl Aquatic center this weekend. Other swimming events around the country have been cancelled, some still on.

https://swimswam.com/southern-california...uYri-nKmx0

[newguy]

Grindr students are being sent home.

Now there's a university I didn't know existed!

BC

i aint touchin that one.

[newguy]

Grindr students are being sent home.

Now there's a university I didn't know existed!

BC

i aint touchin that one.

[BostonCard]

Harvard is not only moving to an online only school, it is pushing students out of the houses and dorms.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/10/us/harvar...index.html

BC

[BostonCard]

Harvard is not only moving to an online only school, it is pushing students out of the houses and dorms.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/10/us/harvar...index.html

BC

[OutsiderFan]

Harvard is not only moving to an online only school, it is pushing students out of the houses and dorms.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/10/us/harvar...index.html

BC

MASS reported 51 new cases today.  I don't know where exactly, but this could also be connected to why the Ivy League Tournament, which was scheduled at Harvard, was cancelled.

[OutsiderFan]

Harvard is not only moving to an online only school, it is pushing students out of the houses and dorms.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/10/us/harvar...index.html

BC

MASS reported 51 new cases today.  I don't know where exactly, but this could also be connected to why the Ivy League Tournament, which was scheduled at Harvard, was cancelled.

[Griffins78]

MASS reported 51 new cases today.  I don't know where exactly, but this could also be connected to why the Ivy League Tournament, which was scheduled at Harvard, was cancelled.

70 were at a Biogen meeting. Mass declared state of emergency.

[Griffins78]

MASS reported 51 new cases today.  I don't know where exactly, but this could also be connected to why the Ivy League Tournament, which was scheduled at Harvard, was cancelled.

70 were at a Biogen meeting. Mass declared state of emergency.

[Toroso]

Thank you all for the information; this thread has been really interesting and useful.

I have some questions I hope you can help me understand: how are the lockdowns going to work (particularly in Italy)? How long will they be in place for? 1 month? 2 months? More? What events or information would trigger a return to normal movement? What would prevent a second surge after normalizing movement? Would that just result in more of these cycles, and a long string of cancelled/postponed events? It seems we are some time away from a vaccine or treatment, so I am wondering about the effectiveness and strategy behind these approaches.

Thanks.

[Toroso]

Thank you all for the information; this thread has been really interesting and useful.

I have some questions I hope you can help me understand: how are the lockdowns going to work (particularly in Italy)? How long will they be in place for? 1 month? 2 months? More? What events or information would trigger a return to normal movement? What would prevent a second surge after normalizing movement? Would that just result in more of these cycles, and a long string of cancelled/postponed events? It seems we are some time away from a vaccine or treatment, so I am wondering about the effectiveness and strategy behind these approaches.

Thanks.

[mbdude]

NCAA statement on COVID-19 and sporting events
March 10, 2020 1:13pm
NCAA member schools and conferences make their own decisions regarding regular season and conference tournament play.  As we have stated, we will make decisions on our events based on the best, most current public health guidance available. Neither the NCAA COVID-19 advisory panel, made up of leading public health and infectious disease experts in America, nor the CDC or local health officials have advised against holding sporting events. In the event circumstances change, we will make decisions accordingly.                        
- Mark Emmert, NCAA president

[mbdude]

NCAA statement on COVID-19 and sporting events
March 10, 2020 1:13pm
NCAA member schools and conferences make their own decisions regarding regular season and conference tournament play.  As we have stated, we will make decisions on our events based on the best, most current public health guidance available. Neither the NCAA COVID-19 advisory panel, made up of leading public health and infectious disease experts in America, nor the CDC or local health officials have advised against holding sporting events. In the event circumstances change, we will make decisions accordingly.                        
- Mark Emmert, NCAA president

[JJJ]

Here's another tracker which was produced at least in part by a Stanford '21 student:

https://www.trackcorona.live/

[JJJ]

Here's another tracker which was produced at least in part by a Stanford '21 student:

https://www.trackcorona.live/