12-05-2021, 07:55 AM
Per 247.
Bailey commits
12-05-2021, 09:14 AM
Wow, this could be very nice for incoming class! To me it remains #1 in the "recovery" plan to bring in a strong class. Does seem like the staff and hopefully others in the University are doing everything possible to make this happen.
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Wow, this could be very nice for incoming class! To me it remains #1 in the "recovery" plan to bring in a strong class. Does seem like the staff and hopefully others in the University are doing everything possible to make this happen.
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Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
12-05-2021, 09:50 AM
I wonder if it is just coincidental that he committed to Stanford the morning after the Toejams got beat by cal by 10 points in a game nobody watched.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
This is the biggest recruiting news in 4 years (since McKee committed). Enormous news for Stanford. The team may need some changes on the coaching staff, but nothing positive is going to happen without talent, and Bailey is a major talent. Anyone who is poo-pooing this commitment should reconsider.
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This is the biggest recruiting news in 4 years (since McKee committed). Enormous news for Stanford. The team may need some changes on the coaching staff, but nothing positive is going to happen without talent, and Bailey is a major talent. Anyone who is poo-pooing this commitment should reconsider.
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12-05-2021, 11:20 AM
(12-05-2021, 10:20 AM)TrumpCard Wrote: This is the biggest recruiting news in 4 years (since McKee committed). Enormous news for Stanford. The team may need some changes on the coaching staff, but nothing positive is going to happen without talent, and Bailey is a major talent. Anyone who is poo-pooing this commitment should reconsider.
Talent definitely matters. But what you do with it also matters in a big way. That's where coaching, player development and S&C come in. I have seen too many highly-touted recruits fail to live up to their billing in recent years, so we have to get that end of the equation right, or excellent recruiting will not translate into Ws on the field.
(12-05-2021, 10:20 AM)TrumpCard Wrote: This is the biggest recruiting news in 4 years (since McKee committed). Enormous news for Stanford. The team may need some changes on the coaching staff, but nothing positive is going to happen without talent, and Bailey is a major talent. Anyone who is poo-pooing this commitment should reconsider.
Talent definitely matters. But what you do with it also matters in a big way. That's where coaching, player development and S&C come in. I have seen too many highly-touted recruits fail to live up to their billing in recent years, so we have to get that end of the equation right, or excellent recruiting will not translate into Ws on the field.
12-05-2021, 11:23 AM
With Bailey, Stanford has the #11 recruiting class in the country? #2 in the Pac-12? Eight 4 stars and 13 3 stars? Do I have that right?
https://247sports.com/college/stanford/S...l/Commits/
https://247sports.com/college/stanford/S...l/Commits/
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With Bailey, Stanford has the #11 recruiting class in the country? #2 in the Pac-12? Eight 4 stars and 13 3 stars? Do I have that right?
https://247sports.com/college/stanford/S...l/Commits/
https://247sports.com/college/stanford/S...l/Commits/
Audaces fortuna iuvat
12-05-2021, 11:30 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-05-2021, 11:32 AM by OutsiderFan.)
So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
(This post was last modified: 12-05-2021, 11:32 AM by OutsiderFan.)
So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
12-05-2021, 12:51 PM
Before I knew anything about him, I figured Bailey was a MLB, as he was labeled a LB at first. but now he's referred to as an Edge rusher, and I'm seeing he is a dominant one, with 14.5 sacks this season.
One thing about a player who is a dominant pass rusher, is he should be able to play early and make a difference on obvious passing downs, even if he isn't able to be an every down player right away.
One thing about a player who is a dominant pass rusher, is he should be able to play early and make a difference on obvious passing downs, even if he isn't able to be an every down player right away.
Before I knew anything about him, I figured Bailey was a MLB, as he was labeled a LB at first. but now he's referred to as an Edge rusher, and I'm seeing he is a dominant one, with 14.5 sacks this season.
One thing about a player who is a dominant pass rusher, is he should be able to play early and make a difference on obvious passing downs, even if he isn't able to be an every down player right away.
One thing about a player who is a dominant pass rusher, is he should be able to play early and make a difference on obvious passing downs, even if he isn't able to be an every down player right away.
12-05-2021, 01:03 PM
(12-05-2021, 09:50 AM)martyup Wrote: I wonder if it is just coincidental that he committed to Stanford the morning after the Toejams got beat by cal by 10 points in a game nobody watched.
People that didn't watch missed a fun game. At least paired with the reddit game thread it was a good time.
12-05-2021, 01:24 PM
Stanford is probably not going anywhere in 2022. So play the guys who can deliver athleticism even if they can't master the 633 page special teams handbook. Forget about redshirting anybody with talent. 2022 is all about 2023.
12-05-2021, 01:49 PM
(12-05-2021, 11:30 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
IMHO Robinson was a tweener in terms of size for ILB and speed for OLB. I seem to recall he had some injury issues early on.
(12-05-2021, 11:30 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
IMHO Robinson was a tweener in terms of size for ILB and speed for OLB. I seem to recall he had some injury issues early on.
12-05-2021, 01:52 PM
(12-05-2021, 11:23 AM)Mick Wrote: With Bailey, Stanford has the #11 recruiting class in the country? #2 in the Pac-12? Eight 4 stars and 13 3 stars? Do I have that right?
https://247sports.com/college/stanford/S...l/Commits/
Is Ramsay on that list? May be a ??; but yes, very good recruiting class.
It remains difficult for this fan to get excited about Stanford football, however, when the elephant remains in the room.
(12-05-2021, 11:23 AM)Mick Wrote: With Bailey, Stanford has the #11 recruiting class in the country? #2 in the Pac-12? Eight 4 stars and 13 3 stars? Do I have that right?
https://247sports.com/college/stanford/S...l/Commits/
Is Ramsay on that list? May be a ??; but yes, very good recruiting class.
It remains difficult for this fan to get excited about Stanford football, however, when the elephant remains in the room.
12-05-2021, 03:56 PM
(12-05-2021, 11:30 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
Robinson made somebody's practice squad but I dont know if he stuck. He had way too many injury issues at Stan but played well his 5th year, and we didn't seem to know where to play him, unfortunately.
(12-05-2021, 11:30 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
Robinson made somebody's practice squad but I dont know if he stuck. He had way too many injury issues at Stan but played well his 5th year, and we didn't seem to know where to play him, unfortunately.
12-05-2021, 04:19 PM
(12-05-2021, 03:56 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-05-2021, 11:30 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
Robinson made somebody's practice squad but I dont know if he stuck. He had way too many injury issues at Stan but played well his 5th year, and we didn't seem to know where to play him, unfortunately.
Robinson is on the Broncos
(12-05-2021, 03:56 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-05-2021, 11:30 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
Robinson made somebody's practice squad but I dont know if he stuck. He had way too many injury issues at Stan but played well his 5th year, and we didn't seem to know where to play him, unfortunately.
Robinson is on the Broncos
12-05-2021, 04:27 PM
(12-05-2021, 04:19 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote:(12-05-2021, 03:56 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-05-2021, 11:30 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
Robinson made somebody's practice squad but I dont know if he stuck. He had way too many injury issues at Stan but played well his 5th year, and we didn't seem to know where to play him, unfortunately.
Robinson is on the Broncos
apparently was, on 30 Nov 2021
Quote:Denver signed running back Kerrith Whyte Jr. and tackle Adrian Ealy to the practice squad, the team announced Tuesday.
The Broncos released linebacker Curtis Robinson from the practice squad in a corresponding move.
https://www.denverbroncos.com/news/bronc...tice-squad
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
(12-05-2021, 04:19 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote:(12-05-2021, 03:56 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-05-2021, 11:30 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
Robinson made somebody's practice squad but I dont know if he stuck. He had way too many injury issues at Stan but played well his 5th year, and we didn't seem to know where to play him, unfortunately.
Robinson is on the Broncos
apparently was, on 30 Nov 2021
Quote:Denver signed running back Kerrith Whyte Jr. and tackle Adrian Ealy to the practice squad, the team announced Tuesday.
The Broncos released linebacker Curtis Robinson from the practice squad in a corresponding move.
https://www.denverbroncos.com/news/bronc...tice-squad
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
12-05-2021, 07:56 PM
(12-05-2021, 04:27 PM)82lsju Wrote:(12-05-2021, 04:19 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote:(12-05-2021, 03:56 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-05-2021, 11:30 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
Robinson made somebody's practice squad but I dont know if he stuck. He had way too many injury issues at Stan but played well his 5th year, and we didn't seem to know where to play him, unfortunately.
Robinson is on the Broncos
apparently was, on 30 Nov 2021
Quote:Denver signed running back Kerrith Whyte Jr. and tackle Adrian Ealy to the practice squad, the team announced Tuesday.
The Broncos released linebacker Curtis Robinson from the practice squad in a corresponding move.
https://www.denverbroncos.com/news/bronc...tice-squad
I hope he sticks with it. James Vaughters tried, tried, and triied again and now is part of the rotation at Pittsburgh.
(12-05-2021, 04:27 PM)82lsju Wrote:(12-05-2021, 04:19 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote:(12-05-2021, 03:56 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-05-2021, 11:30 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: So does Bailey get to follow in Curtis Robinson's footsteps, an even higher rated LB from Mater Dei, who is one of far too many elite recruits Stanford Football has failed to either take advantage of and/or develop? Or will he live up to his recruiting billing?
It's easy to understand why Stanford fan reaction to a commitment from this player isn't what it might have been a year or two ago.
Do the fans trust David Shaw to surround players like Bailey with the coaching and development needed to make them into difference making players? My assumption is the answer to that question is "no" for the majority of Stanford fans on Dec. 5, 2021.
Robinson made somebody's practice squad but I dont know if he stuck. He had way too many injury issues at Stan but played well his 5th year, and we didn't seem to know where to play him, unfortunately.
Robinson is on the Broncos
apparently was, on 30 Nov 2021
Quote:Denver signed running back Kerrith Whyte Jr. and tackle Adrian Ealy to the practice squad, the team announced Tuesday.
The Broncos released linebacker Curtis Robinson from the practice squad in a corresponding move.
https://www.denverbroncos.com/news/bronc...tice-squad
I hope he sticks with it. James Vaughters tried, tried, and triied again and now is part of the rotation at Pittsburgh.
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