11-13-2022, 12:03 PM
Women's Hoops Recruiting Class of 2023+
It's going to be a BOMBASTIC Tuesday, that's for sure,
as #1 Juju WATKINS and #5 Hannah HIDALGO announce
their college commitments as a fitting culmination
for the early signing period.
And the common denominator: STANFORD is a finalist for both.
I think Stanford has a better chance with WATKINS, and this goes
all the way back to her declaration during her HS freshman year
that "she plans to continue her education at Stanford".
Plus I like the narrative that, as a former #1 overall recruit
(Haley JONES) closes her illustrious college career at Stanford,
another #1 overall recruit (Juju WATKINS) - playing pretty much
the same position at SF - takes over.
On the other hand, my gut feel with HIDALGO is Notre Dame
(somehow, this is based on her "God first" persuasion,
which I like and admire, and that a PG tandem of Olivia MILES
and HIDALGO looks really good!)
But we can still hope that a SAME DAY announcement
will produce the SAME RESULT for both....why not?
as #1 Juju WATKINS and #5 Hannah HIDALGO announce
their college commitments as a fitting culmination
for the early signing period.
And the common denominator: STANFORD is a finalist for both.
I think Stanford has a better chance with WATKINS, and this goes
all the way back to her declaration during her HS freshman year
that "she plans to continue her education at Stanford".
Plus I like the narrative that, as a former #1 overall recruit
(Haley JONES) closes her illustrious college career at Stanford,
another #1 overall recruit (Juju WATKINS) - playing pretty much
the same position at SF - takes over.
On the other hand, my gut feel with HIDALGO is Notre Dame
(somehow, this is based on her "God first" persuasion,
which I like and admire, and that a PG tandem of Olivia MILES
and HIDALGO looks really good!)
But we can still hope that a SAME DAY announcement
will produce the SAME RESULT for both....why not?
(This post was last modified: 11-13-2022, 01:10 PM by joemontes.)
It's going to be a BOMBASTIC Tuesday, that's for sure,
as #1 Juju WATKINS and #5 Hannah HIDALGO announce
their college commitments as a fitting culmination
for the early signing period.
And the common denominator: STANFORD is a finalist for both.
I think Stanford has a better chance with WATKINS, and this goes
all the way back to her declaration during her HS freshman year
that "she plans to continue her education at Stanford".
Plus I like the narrative that, as a former #1 overall recruit
(Haley JONES) closes her illustrious college career at Stanford,
another #1 overall recruit (Juju WATKINS) - playing pretty much
the same position at SF - takes over.
On the other hand, my gut feel with HIDALGO is Notre Dame
(somehow, this is based on her "God first" persuasion,
which I like and admire, and that a PG tandem of Olivia MILES
and HIDALGO looks really good!)
But we can still hope that a SAME DAY announcement
will produce the SAME RESULT for both....why not?
as #1 Juju WATKINS and #5 Hannah HIDALGO announce
their college commitments as a fitting culmination
for the early signing period.
And the common denominator: STANFORD is a finalist for both.
I think Stanford has a better chance with WATKINS, and this goes
all the way back to her declaration during her HS freshman year
that "she plans to continue her education at Stanford".
Plus I like the narrative that, as a former #1 overall recruit
(Haley JONES) closes her illustrious college career at Stanford,
another #1 overall recruit (Juju WATKINS) - playing pretty much
the same position at SF - takes over.
On the other hand, my gut feel with HIDALGO is Notre Dame
(somehow, this is based on her "God first" persuasion,
which I like and admire, and that a PG tandem of Olivia MILES
and HIDALGO looks really good!)
But we can still hope that a SAME DAY announcement
will produce the SAME RESULT for both....why not?
11-13-2022, 01:24 PM
(11-13-2022, 01:09 PM)joemontes Wrote: It's going to be a BOMBASTIC Tuesday, that's for sure,
as #1 Juju WATKINS and #5 Hannah HIDALGO announce
their college commitments as a fitting culmination
for the early signing period.
And the common denominator: STANFORD is a finalist for both.
I think Stanford has a better chance with WATKINS, and this goes
all the way back to her declaration during her HS freshman year
that "she plans to continue her education at Stanford".
Plus I like the narrative that, as a former #1 overall recruit
(Haley JONES) closes her illustrious college career at Stanford,
another #1 overall recruit (Juju WATKINS) - playing pretty much
the same position at SF - takes over.
On the other hand, my gut feel with HIDALGO is Notre Dame
(somehow, this is based on her "God first" persuasion,
which I like and admire, and that a PG tandem of Olivia MILES
and HIDALGO looks really good!)
But we can still hope that a SAME DAY announcement
will produce the SAME RESULT for both....why not?
I did notice that Hidalgo follows a bunch of Notre Dame players but no Stanford. But social media has been wrong before.
(11-13-2022, 01:09 PM)joemontes Wrote: It's going to be a BOMBASTIC Tuesday, that's for sure,
as #1 Juju WATKINS and #5 Hannah HIDALGO announce
their college commitments as a fitting culmination
for the early signing period.
And the common denominator: STANFORD is a finalist for both.
I think Stanford has a better chance with WATKINS, and this goes
all the way back to her declaration during her HS freshman year
that "she plans to continue her education at Stanford".
Plus I like the narrative that, as a former #1 overall recruit
(Haley JONES) closes her illustrious college career at Stanford,
another #1 overall recruit (Juju WATKINS) - playing pretty much
the same position at SF - takes over.
On the other hand, my gut feel with HIDALGO is Notre Dame
(somehow, this is based on her "God first" persuasion,
which I like and admire, and that a PG tandem of Olivia MILES
and HIDALGO looks really good!)
But we can still hope that a SAME DAY announcement
will produce the SAME RESULT for both....why not?
I did notice that Hidalgo follows a bunch of Notre Dame players but no Stanford. But social media has been wrong before.
(11-13-2022, 01:24 PM)BosCard Wrote:(11-13-2022, 01:09 PM)joemontes Wrote: It's going to be a BOMBASTIC Tuesday, that's for sure,
as #1 Juju WATKINS and #5 Hannah HIDALGO announce
their college commitments as a fitting culmination
for the early signing period.
And the common denominator: STANFORD is a finalist for both.
I think Stanford has a better chance with WATKINS, and this goes
all the way back to her declaration during her HS freshman year
that "she plans to continue her education at Stanford".
Plus I like the narrative that, as a former #1 overall recruit
(Haley JONES) closes her illustrious college career at Stanford,
another #1 overall recruit (Juju WATKINS) - playing pretty much
the same position at SF - takes over.
On the other hand, my gut feel with HIDALGO is Notre Dame
(somehow, this is based on her "God first" persuasion,
which I like and admire, and that a PG tandem of Olivia MILES
and HIDALGO looks really good!)
But we can still hope that a SAME DAY announcement
will produce the SAME RESULT for both....why not?
I did notice that Hidalgo follows a bunch of Notre Dame players but no Stanford. But social media has been wrong before.
Yeah I seem to think Hidalgo heads to Duke. There was a recent tweet (well a few months ago, before Donovan committed to Duke) where an interviewer asked Hidalgo if she could team up with anyone who would it be and her answer: Jadyn Donovan, who has since committed to Duke. Also noted Hidalgo's father just recently followed Donovan on IG in the last few days.
If we lose out on Watkins, I'm hoping it's to USC (Trojans). Would be a punch in a gut for an LA kid to dodge two Pac-12 schools for South Carolina.
(This post was last modified: 11-14-2022, 01:24 PM by Hoops9092.)
(11-13-2022, 01:24 PM)BosCard Wrote:(11-13-2022, 01:09 PM)joemontes Wrote: It's going to be a BOMBASTIC Tuesday, that's for sure,
as #1 Juju WATKINS and #5 Hannah HIDALGO announce
their college commitments as a fitting culmination
for the early signing period.
And the common denominator: STANFORD is a finalist for both.
I think Stanford has a better chance with WATKINS, and this goes
all the way back to her declaration during her HS freshman year
that "she plans to continue her education at Stanford".
Plus I like the narrative that, as a former #1 overall recruit
(Haley JONES) closes her illustrious college career at Stanford,
another #1 overall recruit (Juju WATKINS) - playing pretty much
the same position at SF - takes over.
On the other hand, my gut feel with HIDALGO is Notre Dame
(somehow, this is based on her "God first" persuasion,
which I like and admire, and that a PG tandem of Olivia MILES
and HIDALGO looks really good!)
But we can still hope that a SAME DAY announcement
will produce the SAME RESULT for both....why not?
I did notice that Hidalgo follows a bunch of Notre Dame players but no Stanford. But social media has been wrong before.
Yeah I seem to think Hidalgo heads to Duke. There was a recent tweet (well a few months ago, before Donovan committed to Duke) where an interviewer asked Hidalgo if she could team up with anyone who would it be and her answer: Jadyn Donovan, who has since committed to Duke. Also noted Hidalgo's father just recently followed Donovan on IG in the last few days.
If we lose out on Watkins, I'm hoping it's to USC (Trojans). Would be a punch in a gut for an LA kid to dodge two Pac-12 schools for South Carolina.
11-14-2022, 12:05 AM
I would be very happy with Watkins to Stanford, and one of Jump/Belibi/Prechtel gets a free master's degree.
11-14-2022, 05:03 PM
Juju Watkins will announce her decision at 10:30am PST tomorrow on ESPN.
Hidalgo will follow at 2:30pm PST
Hidalgo will follow at 2:30pm PST
11-14-2022, 09:02 PM
(11-14-2022, 05:03 PM)Hoops9092 Wrote: Juju Watkins will announce her decision at 10:30am PST tomorrow on ESPN.I haven't been this excited since Jones announced. I hope Juju liked her visit and the fans made her feel welcome ;) Seems like a good kid, wherever she goes.
Hidalgo will follow at 2:30pm PST
(11-14-2022, 05:03 PM)Hoops9092 Wrote: Juju Watkins will announce her decision at 10:30am PST tomorrow on ESPN.I haven't been this excited since Jones announced. I hope Juju liked her visit and the fans made her feel welcome ;) Seems like a good kid, wherever she goes.
Hidalgo will follow at 2:30pm PST
(11-13-2022, 01:47 PM)Hoops9092 Wrote:We've seen who HIDALGO will be teamed with if she decides on Stanford or Notre Dame next season.(11-13-2022, 01:24 PM)BosCard Wrote:(11-13-2022, 01:09 PM)joemontes Wrote: It's going to be a BOMBASTIC Tuesday, that's for sure,
as #1 Juju WATKINS and #5 Hannah HIDALGO announce
their college commitments as a fitting culmination
for the early signing period.
And the common denominator: STANFORD is a finalist for both.
I think Stanford has a better chance with WATKINS, and this goes
all the way back to her declaration during her HS freshman year
that "she plans to continue her education at Stanford".
Plus I like the narrative that, as a former #1 overall recruit
(Haley JONES) closes her illustrious college career at Stanford,
another #1 overall recruit (Juju WATKINS) - playing pretty much
the same position at SF - takes over.
On the other hand, my gut feel with HIDALGO is Notre Dame
(somehow, this is based on her "God first" persuasion,
which I like and admire, and that a PG tandem of Olivia MILES
and HIDALGO looks really good!)
But we can still hope that a SAME DAY announcement
will produce the SAME RESULT for both....why not?
I did notice that Hidalgo follows a bunch of Notre Dame players but no Stanford. But social media has been wrong before.
Yeah I seem to think Hidalgo heads to Duke. There was a recent tweet (well a few months ago, before Donovan committed to Duke) where an interviewer asked Hidalgo if she could team up with anyone who would it be and her answer: Jadyn Donovan, who has since committed to Duke. Also noted Hidalgo's father just recently followed Donovan on IG in the last few days.
If we lose out on Watkins, I'm hoping it's to USC (Trojans). Would be a punch in a gut for an LA kid to dodge two Pac-12 schools for South Carolina.
Now let's look at Duke's returning roster for next season:
**********
SF - Ashlon JACKSON 6'0 (#16 overall in 2022)
PF - Shay BOLLIN 6'3 (#33 overall in 2022)
PF - Delaney THOMAS 6'2 (freshman, #29 overall in 2023)
C - Kennedy BROWN 6'6 (transfer from Oregon State, #20 overall in 2019)
SG - Jadyn DONOVAN 6'1 (freshman, #3 overall in 2023)
SG - Oluchi OKANANWA 5'9 (freshman, #27 overall in 2023)
SG - Jordyn OLIVER 5'10 (transfer from Baylor, #12 overall in 2019)
SG - Reigan RICHARDSON 5'10 (transfer from Georgia, #34 overall in 2021)
SG - Lee VOLKER 5'11
SG - Emma KOABEL 5'11
PG - Vanessa DE JESUS 5'8 (#37 overall in 2020)
PG - Shayeann DAY-WILSON 5'6 (#41 overall in 2021)
**********
That's a VERY GOOD 12-player line-up already. with:
- one Top 3 (DONOVAN),
- another three Top 20 (OLIVER, JACKSON, and BROWN)
- another six Top 50 (OKANANWA, THOMAS, BOLLIN, RICHARDSON,
DE JESUS and DAY-WILSON)
Although very thin at the post position (2 PFs and only one center)
but I'm sure that can be easily remedied with the transfer portal.
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2022, 08:41 AM by joemontes.)
(11-13-2022, 01:47 PM)Hoops9092 Wrote:We've seen who HIDALGO will be teamed with if she decides on Stanford or Notre Dame next season.(11-13-2022, 01:24 PM)BosCard Wrote:(11-13-2022, 01:09 PM)joemontes Wrote: It's going to be a BOMBASTIC Tuesday, that's for sure,
as #1 Juju WATKINS and #5 Hannah HIDALGO announce
their college commitments as a fitting culmination
for the early signing period.
And the common denominator: STANFORD is a finalist for both.
I think Stanford has a better chance with WATKINS, and this goes
all the way back to her declaration during her HS freshman year
that "she plans to continue her education at Stanford".
Plus I like the narrative that, as a former #1 overall recruit
(Haley JONES) closes her illustrious college career at Stanford,
another #1 overall recruit (Juju WATKINS) - playing pretty much
the same position at SF - takes over.
On the other hand, my gut feel with HIDALGO is Notre Dame
(somehow, this is based on her "God first" persuasion,
which I like and admire, and that a PG tandem of Olivia MILES
and HIDALGO looks really good!)
But we can still hope that a SAME DAY announcement
will produce the SAME RESULT for both....why not?
I did notice that Hidalgo follows a bunch of Notre Dame players but no Stanford. But social media has been wrong before.
Yeah I seem to think Hidalgo heads to Duke. There was a recent tweet (well a few months ago, before Donovan committed to Duke) where an interviewer asked Hidalgo if she could team up with anyone who would it be and her answer: Jadyn Donovan, who has since committed to Duke. Also noted Hidalgo's father just recently followed Donovan on IG in the last few days.
If we lose out on Watkins, I'm hoping it's to USC (Trojans). Would be a punch in a gut for an LA kid to dodge two Pac-12 schools for South Carolina.
Now let's look at Duke's returning roster for next season:
**********
SF - Ashlon JACKSON 6'0 (#16 overall in 2022)
PF - Shay BOLLIN 6'3 (#33 overall in 2022)
PF - Delaney THOMAS 6'2 (freshman, #29 overall in 2023)
C - Kennedy BROWN 6'6 (transfer from Oregon State, #20 overall in 2019)
SG - Jadyn DONOVAN 6'1 (freshman, #3 overall in 2023)
SG - Oluchi OKANANWA 5'9 (freshman, #27 overall in 2023)
SG - Jordyn OLIVER 5'10 (transfer from Baylor, #12 overall in 2019)
SG - Reigan RICHARDSON 5'10 (transfer from Georgia, #34 overall in 2021)
SG - Lee VOLKER 5'11
SG - Emma KOABEL 5'11
PG - Vanessa DE JESUS 5'8 (#37 overall in 2020)
PG - Shayeann DAY-WILSON 5'6 (#41 overall in 2021)
**********
That's a VERY GOOD 12-player line-up already. with:
- one Top 3 (DONOVAN),
- another three Top 20 (OLIVER, JACKSON, and BROWN)
- another six Top 50 (OKANANWA, THOMAS, BOLLIN, RICHARDSON,
DE JESUS and DAY-WILSON)
Although very thin at the post position (2 PFs and only one center)
but I'm sure that can be easily remedied with the transfer portal.
11-15-2022, 08:30 AM
Interesting that at both Duke and Notre Dame, Hidalgohas major competition in front of her. So if she picks either then clearly geography or friends/NJ ers on team are top priority.
(11-15-2022, 08:30 AM)Jskass Wrote: Interesting that at both Duke and Notre Dame, Hidalgohas major competition in front of her. So if she picks either then clearly geography or friends/NJ ers on team are top priority.I think 5'7 LEPOLO is major competition for 5'6 HIDALGO at Stanford. For me, LEPOLO is a better passer
and has a better handle than both Duke PGs 5'8 DE JESUS and 5'6 DAY-WILSON, although
both Duke PGs have better offensive arsenal, especially DAY-WILSON.
On the other hand, Notre Dame PG 5'10 MILES is a cut above LEPOLO, DE JESUS and DAY-WILSON.
As a freshman, she led the Irish with 13.7 pts/game, 7.4 assist/game, 1.8 steals/game and
33.4 minutes/game, while also contributing 5.7 rebounds/game.
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2022, 10:14 AM by joemontes.)
(11-15-2022, 08:30 AM)Jskass Wrote: Interesting that at both Duke and Notre Dame, Hidalgohas major competition in front of her. So if she picks either then clearly geography or friends/NJ ers on team are top priority.I think 5'7 LEPOLO is major competition for 5'6 HIDALGO at Stanford. For me, LEPOLO is a better passer
and has a better handle than both Duke PGs 5'8 DE JESUS and 5'6 DAY-WILSON, although
both Duke PGs have better offensive arsenal, especially DAY-WILSON.
On the other hand, Notre Dame PG 5'10 MILES is a cut above LEPOLO, DE JESUS and DAY-WILSON.
As a freshman, she led the Irish with 13.7 pts/game, 7.4 assist/game, 1.8 steals/game and
33.4 minutes/game, while also contributing 5.7 rebounds/game.
Well we are down to the last few hours of this 2023 thread. Not sure I feel confident either Watkins or Hidalgo are coming. They seem like great kids and prospects, but something doesn't give me the Stanford vibe. But maybe perhaps similar to that house painting analogy in the UConn/Texas thread, maybe it's the same caution used with recruits.
Looking back, I've been following recruiting since '08. I remember the great excitement when Nneka Ogwumike (Nov 2007) committed, although I seem to think we sort of expected it, just based on how academically-driven she and her family publicly were. Same with Chiney Ogwumike's decision (Nov 2009) although I remember her visits to Notre Dame and UConn were well documented.
Skylar Diggins (Nov 2008) I think we felt we had an uphill battle, but the fact that there was so much press about her being admitted and visiting gave us confidence. And oh boy did we think she was the "next level" piece. I remember later reading an interview where Diggins said she went to bed thinking she was going to commit to Stanford the next day and woke up saying I'm going to stay home and signed with Notre Dame that day. Notre Dame was also at a pretty rough state at that time, with no other top 100 recruits in that class and having just gotten knocked out in the 1st round of the NCAA's.
Haley Jones (Nov 2018) committing was a great signing day memory. I think we all thought how could she not stay home, but I recall she took all 5 of her official visits. Of course, last year's signing week (Nov 2021) stings after all signs pointed to top PG Kiki Rice coming here, especially after the dramatic unfollowing by Duke's coaching staff the night before.
And of course, we can appreciate so many top recruits who verbally committed months earlier than signing week, saving us of the stress — I think of Lauren Betts, Cameron Brink, Kiana Williams, Jos Tinkle, Aly Beebe, that great 2011 class.
Lastly, in follow-up to that Diggins note above; I recall Kelsey Bone, a top recruit in that class, saying she wanted to go to South Carolina, her mom wanted her to go to Texas A&M and if they couldn't decide within an hour, she would then commit to Jolette Law and Illinois. It's amazing some of these stories of last minute college decisions (and the indecisiveness around it). Ionescu was another one that took it down to the literal last minute. It seems in past years (say 5-10 years ago), that the coaching staff was notified of the decision days/weeks before it became public, but lately it seems like some staffs are finding out at the same time we do with all these Instagram Live and public announcements.
Looking back, I've been following recruiting since '08. I remember the great excitement when Nneka Ogwumike (Nov 2007) committed, although I seem to think we sort of expected it, just based on how academically-driven she and her family publicly were. Same with Chiney Ogwumike's decision (Nov 2009) although I remember her visits to Notre Dame and UConn were well documented.
Skylar Diggins (Nov 2008) I think we felt we had an uphill battle, but the fact that there was so much press about her being admitted and visiting gave us confidence. And oh boy did we think she was the "next level" piece. I remember later reading an interview where Diggins said she went to bed thinking she was going to commit to Stanford the next day and woke up saying I'm going to stay home and signed with Notre Dame that day. Notre Dame was also at a pretty rough state at that time, with no other top 100 recruits in that class and having just gotten knocked out in the 1st round of the NCAA's.
Haley Jones (Nov 2018) committing was a great signing day memory. I think we all thought how could she not stay home, but I recall she took all 5 of her official visits. Of course, last year's signing week (Nov 2021) stings after all signs pointed to top PG Kiki Rice coming here, especially after the dramatic unfollowing by Duke's coaching staff the night before.
And of course, we can appreciate so many top recruits who verbally committed months earlier than signing week, saving us of the stress — I think of Lauren Betts, Cameron Brink, Kiana Williams, Jos Tinkle, Aly Beebe, that great 2011 class.
Lastly, in follow-up to that Diggins note above; I recall Kelsey Bone, a top recruit in that class, saying she wanted to go to South Carolina, her mom wanted her to go to Texas A&M and if they couldn't decide within an hour, she would then commit to Jolette Law and Illinois. It's amazing some of these stories of last minute college decisions (and the indecisiveness around it). Ionescu was another one that took it down to the literal last minute. It seems in past years (say 5-10 years ago), that the coaching staff was notified of the decision days/weeks before it became public, but lately it seems like some staffs are finding out at the same time we do with all these Instagram Live and public announcements.
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2022, 09:58 AM by Hoops9092.)
Well we are down to the last few hours of this 2023 thread. Not sure I feel confident either Watkins or Hidalgo are coming. They seem like great kids and prospects, but something doesn't give me the Stanford vibe. But maybe perhaps similar to that house painting analogy in the UConn/Texas thread, maybe it's the same caution used with recruits.
Looking back, I've been following recruiting since '08. I remember the great excitement when Nneka Ogwumike (Nov 2007) committed, although I seem to think we sort of expected it, just based on how academically-driven she and her family publicly were. Same with Chiney Ogwumike's decision (Nov 2009) although I remember her visits to Notre Dame and UConn were well documented.
Skylar Diggins (Nov 2008) I think we felt we had an uphill battle, but the fact that there was so much press about her being admitted and visiting gave us confidence. And oh boy did we think she was the "next level" piece. I remember later reading an interview where Diggins said she went to bed thinking she was going to commit to Stanford the next day and woke up saying I'm going to stay home and signed with Notre Dame that day. Notre Dame was also at a pretty rough state at that time, with no other top 100 recruits in that class and having just gotten knocked out in the 1st round of the NCAA's.
Haley Jones (Nov 2018) committing was a great signing day memory. I think we all thought how could she not stay home, but I recall she took all 5 of her official visits. Of course, last year's signing week (Nov 2021) stings after all signs pointed to top PG Kiki Rice coming here, especially after the dramatic unfollowing by Duke's coaching staff the night before.
And of course, we can appreciate so many top recruits who verbally committed months earlier than signing week, saving us of the stress — I think of Lauren Betts, Cameron Brink, Kiana Williams, Jos Tinkle, Aly Beebe, that great 2011 class.
Lastly, in follow-up to that Diggins note above; I recall Kelsey Bone, a top recruit in that class, saying she wanted to go to South Carolina, her mom wanted her to go to Texas A&M and if they couldn't decide within an hour, she would then commit to Jolette Law and Illinois. It's amazing some of these stories of last minute college decisions (and the indecisiveness around it). Ionescu was another one that took it down to the literal last minute. It seems in past years (say 5-10 years ago), that the coaching staff was notified of the decision days/weeks before it became public, but lately it seems like some staffs are finding out at the same time we do with all these Instagram Live and public announcements.
Looking back, I've been following recruiting since '08. I remember the great excitement when Nneka Ogwumike (Nov 2007) committed, although I seem to think we sort of expected it, just based on how academically-driven she and her family publicly were. Same with Chiney Ogwumike's decision (Nov 2009) although I remember her visits to Notre Dame and UConn were well documented.
Skylar Diggins (Nov 2008) I think we felt we had an uphill battle, but the fact that there was so much press about her being admitted and visiting gave us confidence. And oh boy did we think she was the "next level" piece. I remember later reading an interview where Diggins said she went to bed thinking she was going to commit to Stanford the next day and woke up saying I'm going to stay home and signed with Notre Dame that day. Notre Dame was also at a pretty rough state at that time, with no other top 100 recruits in that class and having just gotten knocked out in the 1st round of the NCAA's.
Haley Jones (Nov 2018) committing was a great signing day memory. I think we all thought how could she not stay home, but I recall she took all 5 of her official visits. Of course, last year's signing week (Nov 2021) stings after all signs pointed to top PG Kiki Rice coming here, especially after the dramatic unfollowing by Duke's coaching staff the night before.
And of course, we can appreciate so many top recruits who verbally committed months earlier than signing week, saving us of the stress — I think of Lauren Betts, Cameron Brink, Kiana Williams, Jos Tinkle, Aly Beebe, that great 2011 class.
Lastly, in follow-up to that Diggins note above; I recall Kelsey Bone, a top recruit in that class, saying she wanted to go to South Carolina, her mom wanted her to go to Texas A&M and if they couldn't decide within an hour, she would then commit to Jolette Law and Illinois. It's amazing some of these stories of last minute college decisions (and the indecisiveness around it). Ionescu was another one that took it down to the literal last minute. It seems in past years (say 5-10 years ago), that the coaching staff was notified of the decision days/weeks before it became public, but lately it seems like some staffs are finding out at the same time we do with all these Instagram Live and public announcements.
About an hour from #1 overall Juju WATKINS commitment announcement.
Which assembly of top ranked players will she spearhead next season?
South Carolina:
#2 (2021) - Raven JOHNSON 5'8 PG
#4 (2021) - Sanya FEAGIN 6'3 PF
#5 (2020) - Kamilla CARDOSO 6'7 C (2021 transfer from Syracuse)
#12 (2022) - Ashlyn WATKINS 6'3 C
#13 (2023) - Milaysia FULWILEY 5'6 PG
#14 (2021) - Aubryanna HALL 6'0 SF
#17 (2023) - Chloe KITTS 6'2 PF
#18 (2022) - Talaysia COOPER 6'0 SG/PG
#25 (2023) - Tessa JOHNSON 5'10 SG
#40 (2023) - Sahnya JAH 6'1 SF
Stanford:
#1 (2022) - Lauren BETTS 6'7 C
#3 (2020) - Cameron BRINK 6'4 PF
#10 (2023) - Courtney OGDEN 6'1 SF
#11 (2021) - Brooke DEMETRE 6'3 SF
#19 (2021) - Okikiola IRAFEN 6'3 PF
#20 (2022) - Indya NIVAR 5'10 SG/PG
#37 (2023) - Sunaja AGARA 6'2 PF
#39 (2023) - Chloe CLARDY 5'9 SG
#71 (2022) - Talana LEPOLO 5'7 PG
#78 (2021) - Jzaniya HARRIEL 5'10 PG
USC:
#8 (2022) - Aaliyah GAYLES 5'9 SG
#11 (2018) - Kadi SISSOKO 6'2 SF/PF (2022 transfer from Minnesota/Syracuse)
#21 (2021) - Clarice OKUNWAFO 6'6 C
#27 (2021) - Rhaya MARSHALL 6'4 PF
#29 (2021) - Taylor BIGBY 6'1 SG (2022 transfer from Oregon)
#49 (2023) - Malia SAMUELS 5'6 PG
#63 (2019) - Koi LOVE 6'0 SF/PF (2022 transfer from Arizona/Vanderbilt)
#72 (2019) - Kayla WILLIAMS 5'7 PG (2022 transfer from UC Irvine)
Analysis:
Even without WATKINS, both South Carolina and Stanford will be pre-season
Top 5 teams next season. However, if one of them gets WATKINS,
that team will easily be the pre-season Top favorite (along with UConn).
On the other hand, USC without WATKINS won't even be a Top 25 team
next season. However, with WATKINS, they probably become
a Top 15 team next season - definitely a boost of immense proportion
to a long stagnant program.
Which assembly of top ranked players will she spearhead next season?
South Carolina:
#2 (2021) - Raven JOHNSON 5'8 PG
#4 (2021) - Sanya FEAGIN 6'3 PF
#5 (2020) - Kamilla CARDOSO 6'7 C (2021 transfer from Syracuse)
#12 (2022) - Ashlyn WATKINS 6'3 C
#13 (2023) - Milaysia FULWILEY 5'6 PG
#14 (2021) - Aubryanna HALL 6'0 SF
#17 (2023) - Chloe KITTS 6'2 PF
#18 (2022) - Talaysia COOPER 6'0 SG/PG
#25 (2023) - Tessa JOHNSON 5'10 SG
#40 (2023) - Sahnya JAH 6'1 SF
Stanford:
#1 (2022) - Lauren BETTS 6'7 C
#3 (2020) - Cameron BRINK 6'4 PF
#10 (2023) - Courtney OGDEN 6'1 SF
#11 (2021) - Brooke DEMETRE 6'3 SF
#19 (2021) - Okikiola IRAFEN 6'3 PF
#20 (2022) - Indya NIVAR 5'10 SG/PG
#37 (2023) - Sunaja AGARA 6'2 PF
#39 (2023) - Chloe CLARDY 5'9 SG
#71 (2022) - Talana LEPOLO 5'7 PG
#78 (2021) - Jzaniya HARRIEL 5'10 PG
USC:
#8 (2022) - Aaliyah GAYLES 5'9 SG
#11 (2018) - Kadi SISSOKO 6'2 SF/PF (2022 transfer from Minnesota/Syracuse)
#21 (2021) - Clarice OKUNWAFO 6'6 C
#27 (2021) - Rhaya MARSHALL 6'4 PF
#29 (2021) - Taylor BIGBY 6'1 SG (2022 transfer from Oregon)
#49 (2023) - Malia SAMUELS 5'6 PG
#63 (2019) - Koi LOVE 6'0 SF/PF (2022 transfer from Arizona/Vanderbilt)
#72 (2019) - Kayla WILLIAMS 5'7 PG (2022 transfer from UC Irvine)
Analysis:
Even without WATKINS, both South Carolina and Stanford will be pre-season
Top 5 teams next season. However, if one of them gets WATKINS,
that team will easily be the pre-season Top favorite (along with UConn).
On the other hand, USC without WATKINS won't even be a Top 25 team
next season. However, with WATKINS, they probably become
a Top 15 team next season - definitely a boost of immense proportion
to a long stagnant program.
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2022, 10:48 AM by joemontes.)
About an hour from #1 overall Juju WATKINS commitment announcement.
Which assembly of top ranked players will she spearhead next season?
South Carolina:
#2 (2021) - Raven JOHNSON 5'8 PG
#4 (2021) - Sanya FEAGIN 6'3 PF
#5 (2020) - Kamilla CARDOSO 6'7 C (2021 transfer from Syracuse)
#12 (2022) - Ashlyn WATKINS 6'3 C
#13 (2023) - Milaysia FULWILEY 5'6 PG
#14 (2021) - Aubryanna HALL 6'0 SF
#17 (2023) - Chloe KITTS 6'2 PF
#18 (2022) - Talaysia COOPER 6'0 SG/PG
#25 (2023) - Tessa JOHNSON 5'10 SG
#40 (2023) - Sahnya JAH 6'1 SF
Stanford:
#1 (2022) - Lauren BETTS 6'7 C
#3 (2020) - Cameron BRINK 6'4 PF
#10 (2023) - Courtney OGDEN 6'1 SF
#11 (2021) - Brooke DEMETRE 6'3 SF
#19 (2021) - Okikiola IRAFEN 6'3 PF
#20 (2022) - Indya NIVAR 5'10 SG/PG
#37 (2023) - Sunaja AGARA 6'2 PF
#39 (2023) - Chloe CLARDY 5'9 SG
#71 (2022) - Talana LEPOLO 5'7 PG
#78 (2021) - Jzaniya HARRIEL 5'10 PG
USC:
#8 (2022) - Aaliyah GAYLES 5'9 SG
#11 (2018) - Kadi SISSOKO 6'2 SF/PF (2022 transfer from Minnesota/Syracuse)
#21 (2021) - Clarice OKUNWAFO 6'6 C
#27 (2021) - Rhaya MARSHALL 6'4 PF
#29 (2021) - Taylor BIGBY 6'1 SG (2022 transfer from Oregon)
#49 (2023) - Malia SAMUELS 5'6 PG
#63 (2019) - Koi LOVE 6'0 SF/PF (2022 transfer from Arizona/Vanderbilt)
#72 (2019) - Kayla WILLIAMS 5'7 PG (2022 transfer from UC Irvine)
Analysis:
Even without WATKINS, both South Carolina and Stanford will be pre-season
Top 5 teams next season. However, if one of them gets WATKINS,
that team will easily be the pre-season Top favorite (along with UConn).
On the other hand, USC without WATKINS won't even be a Top 25 team
next season. However, with WATKINS, they probably become
a Top 15 team next season - definitely a boost of immense proportion
to a long stagnant program.
Which assembly of top ranked players will she spearhead next season?
South Carolina:
#2 (2021) - Raven JOHNSON 5'8 PG
#4 (2021) - Sanya FEAGIN 6'3 PF
#5 (2020) - Kamilla CARDOSO 6'7 C (2021 transfer from Syracuse)
#12 (2022) - Ashlyn WATKINS 6'3 C
#13 (2023) - Milaysia FULWILEY 5'6 PG
#14 (2021) - Aubryanna HALL 6'0 SF
#17 (2023) - Chloe KITTS 6'2 PF
#18 (2022) - Talaysia COOPER 6'0 SG/PG
#25 (2023) - Tessa JOHNSON 5'10 SG
#40 (2023) - Sahnya JAH 6'1 SF
Stanford:
#1 (2022) - Lauren BETTS 6'7 C
#3 (2020) - Cameron BRINK 6'4 PF
#10 (2023) - Courtney OGDEN 6'1 SF
#11 (2021) - Brooke DEMETRE 6'3 SF
#19 (2021) - Okikiola IRAFEN 6'3 PF
#20 (2022) - Indya NIVAR 5'10 SG/PG
#37 (2023) - Sunaja AGARA 6'2 PF
#39 (2023) - Chloe CLARDY 5'9 SG
#71 (2022) - Talana LEPOLO 5'7 PG
#78 (2021) - Jzaniya HARRIEL 5'10 PG
USC:
#8 (2022) - Aaliyah GAYLES 5'9 SG
#11 (2018) - Kadi SISSOKO 6'2 SF/PF (2022 transfer from Minnesota/Syracuse)
#21 (2021) - Clarice OKUNWAFO 6'6 C
#27 (2021) - Rhaya MARSHALL 6'4 PF
#29 (2021) - Taylor BIGBY 6'1 SG (2022 transfer from Oregon)
#49 (2023) - Malia SAMUELS 5'6 PG
#63 (2019) - Koi LOVE 6'0 SF/PF (2022 transfer from Arizona/Vanderbilt)
#72 (2019) - Kayla WILLIAMS 5'7 PG (2022 transfer from UC Irvine)
Analysis:
Even without WATKINS, both South Carolina and Stanford will be pre-season
Top 5 teams next season. However, if one of them gets WATKINS,
that team will easily be the pre-season Top favorite (along with UConn).
On the other hand, USC without WATKINS won't even be a Top 25 team
next season. However, with WATKINS, they probably become
a Top 15 team next season - definitely a boost of immense proportion
to a long stagnant program.
11-15-2022, 10:45 AM
Generally I feel more warm and fuzzy about those who keep a lower profile on the recruiting trail, not just for Stanford's sake (and I think a low profile is generally more favorable for us), but because I appreciate the manner in which the recruit chooses to take control of their life and have the recruiting process on their own terms. This sentiment swings more toward Watkins than Hidalgo here, but I am going to be happy to root for both, no matter where they go -- except when they play Stanford.
Generally I feel more warm and fuzzy about those who keep a lower profile on the recruiting trail, not just for Stanford's sake (and I think a low profile is generally more favorable for us), but because I appreciate the manner in which the recruit chooses to take control of their life and have the recruiting process on their own terms. This sentiment swings more toward Watkins than Hidalgo here, but I am going to be happy to root for both, no matter where they go -- except when they play Stanford.
11-15-2022, 10:50 AM
One reason I am keeping up some hopes is that it has been a long time since Staley didn't tweet something about a birdie in the nest when there is a commit. Even just before announcements, it seems like lately an hour before the announcement, she makes a tweet. Which essentially confirms it. I have been waiting for a tweet (not wanting, just waiting), and it hasn't happened. So, I kind of feel like it isn't South Carolina for JuJu. And I just can't imagine her going to USC (at least I hope not). So, maybe, just maybe she is coming our way. I know a lot of tea leaf reading there, but definitely anxiously hoping for good news soon!
One reason I am keeping up some hopes is that it has been a long time since Staley didn't tweet something about a birdie in the nest when there is a commit. Even just before announcements, it seems like lately an hour before the announcement, she makes a tweet. Which essentially confirms it. I have been waiting for a tweet (not wanting, just waiting), and it hasn't happened. So, I kind of feel like it isn't South Carolina for JuJu. And I just can't imagine her going to USC (at least I hope not). So, maybe, just maybe she is coming our way. I know a lot of tea leaf reading there, but definitely anxiously hoping for good news soon!
11-15-2022, 11:42 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2022, 11:43 AM by BostonCard.)
At work but I keep refreshing. Any news?
BC
EDIT: I guess technical difficulties
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Tarek_Fattal/status/1592588874488115200?s=20&t=Pe8DCd0gVrhOUNKIjbgalw[/tweet]
BC
EDIT: I guess technical difficulties
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Tarek_Fattal/status/1592588874488115200?s=20&t=Pe8DCd0gVrhOUNKIjbgalw[/tweet]
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2022, 11:43 AM by BostonCard.)
At work but I keep refreshing. Any news?
BC
EDIT: I guess technical difficulties
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Tarek_Fattal/status/1592588874488115200?s=20&t=Pe8DCd0gVrhOUNKIjbgalw[/tweet]
BC
EDIT: I guess technical difficulties
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Tarek_Fattal/status/1592588874488115200?s=20&t=Pe8DCd0gVrhOUNKIjbgalw[/tweet]
11-15-2022, 11:51 AM
(11-15-2022, 11:47 AM)jonnyss Wrote:(11-14-2022, 05:03 PM)Hoops9092 Wrote: Juju Watkins will announce her decision at 10:30am PST tomorrow on ESPN.
Hidalgo will follow at 2:30pm PST
i don't see the announcement so far. any update on the timing?
Technical difficulties, no one on twitter seems to know when.
(11-15-2022, 11:47 AM)jonnyss Wrote:(11-14-2022, 05:03 PM)Hoops9092 Wrote: Juju Watkins will announce her decision at 10:30am PST tomorrow on ESPN.
Hidalgo will follow at 2:30pm PST
i don't see the announcement so far. any update on the timing?
Technical difficulties, no one on twitter seems to know when.
Keep an eye on Twitter — I bet she will announce in the next few minutes, with or without SportCenter, considering the school has all the students there.
One reporter indicated JuJu has a new, 1 week old puppy who is at the table with her.
Does this puppy-at-home give USC an advantage?!
One reporter indicated JuJu has a new, 1 week old puppy who is at the table with her.
Does this puppy-at-home give USC an advantage?!
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2022, 11:52 AM by Hoops9092.)
Keep an eye on Twitter — I bet she will announce in the next few minutes, with or without SportCenter, considering the school has all the students there.
One reporter indicated JuJu has a new, 1 week old puppy who is at the table with her.
Does this puppy-at-home give USC an advantage?!
One reporter indicated JuJu has a new, 1 week old puppy who is at the table with her.
Does this puppy-at-home give USC an advantage?!
11-15-2022, 11:52 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2022, 11:53 AM by BostonCard.)
Don't know, but now I am hoping we have a scholarship spot open for Guapo (that adorable dog).
[tweet]https://twitter.com/bylucaevans/status/1592590904766115841?s=20&t=bUR7JpkeETyE4u-GFCJ5Vw[/tweet]
BC
[tweet]https://twitter.com/bylucaevans/status/1592590904766115841?s=20&t=bUR7JpkeETyE4u-GFCJ5Vw[/tweet]
BC
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2022, 11:53 AM by BostonCard.)
Don't know, but now I am hoping we have a scholarship spot open for Guapo (that adorable dog).
[tweet]https://twitter.com/bylucaevans/status/1592590904766115841?s=20&t=bUR7JpkeETyE4u-GFCJ5Vw[/tweet]
BC
[tweet]https://twitter.com/bylucaevans/status/1592590904766115841?s=20&t=bUR7JpkeETyE4u-GFCJ5Vw[/tweet]
BC
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