[OCcardinal]

If a player is in the portal they can sign with a new team after the portal closes

I'm not sure if that was a response to my post.  I was referring to the risk of losing more players by having a coaching change portal open up after the regular portal.  We've already lost our chance of retaining players who might of stayed with a change, but then could lose more players who might leave because of a change. Like happened with the Troy Taylor firing. A coaching change after the regular portal is the worst scenario in terms of timing.

[OCcardinal]

If a player is in the portal they can sign with a new team after the portal closes

I'm not sure if that was a response to my post.  I was referring to the risk of losing more players by having a coaching change portal open up after the regular portal.  We've already lost our chance of retaining players who might of stayed with a change, but then could lose more players who might leave because of a change. Like happened with the Troy Taylor firing. A coaching change after the regular portal is the worst scenario in terms of timing.

[jonnyss]

If a player is in the portal they can sign with a new team after the portal closes

I'm not sure if that was a response to my post.  I was referring to the risk of losing more players by having a coaching change portal open up after the regular portal.  We've already lost our chance of retaining players who might of stayed with a change, but then could lose more players who might leave because of a change. Like happened with the Troy Taylor firing. A coaching change after the regular portal is the worst scenario in terms of timing.

true that, but hopefully, come this fall, the new recruiting class would be a lot better.

[jonnyss]

If a player is in the portal they can sign with a new team after the portal closes

I'm not sure if that was a response to my post.  I was referring to the risk of losing more players by having a coaching change portal open up after the regular portal.  We've already lost our chance of retaining players who might of stayed with a change, but then could lose more players who might leave because of a change. Like happened with the Troy Taylor firing. A coaching change after the regular portal is the worst scenario in terms of timing.

true that, but hopefully, come this fall, the new recruiting class would be a lot better.

[Sam Leopold]

And has anyone seen Teejers the past half-decade?  Hope he's OK.

Got into a fight in the wrong WBB thread about four years ago, took his ball and went home.  I still haven't forgotten how he called me out by name in a thread I didn't post in, because I mocked David Shaw for not being able to beat Oregon State more than 11 times in a row.

[Sam Leopold]

And has anyone seen Teejers the past half-decade?  Hope he's OK.

Got into a fight in the wrong WBB thread about four years ago, took his ball and went home.  I still haven't forgotten how he called me out by name in a thread I didn't post in, because I mocked David Shaw for not being able to beat Oregon State more than 11 times in a row.

[BobK]

Teejers is on Rivals posting away.
Changed is handle.

[BobK]

Teejers is on Rivals posting away.
Changed is handle.

[2006alum]

Amborn to Cal. I'm guessing she was the one who would withdraw if we changed coaches. Which presumably means they've been told Paye is staying. For a lost year in an empty gym.

I guess I can root for Cal for a year?

From the press release announcing Amborn committing to Cal:

"I cannot wait to continue my family legacy here," Amborn said. "Cal truly feels like home. Coach Charmin is the ultimate leader and I am incredibly excited to play for someone who cares so deeply and believes in her players on and off the court. I feel so lucky to join this team."

Funny how she had literally nothing to say about the Stanford coaching staff when she announced she was transferring. But yeah, sure, the coaches aren't the problem, it's the portal and NIL...

[2006alum]

Amborn to Cal. I'm guessing she was the one who would withdraw if we changed coaches. Which presumably means they've been told Paye is staying. For a lost year in an empty gym.

I guess I can root for Cal for a year?

From the press release announcing Amborn committing to Cal:

"I cannot wait to continue my family legacy here," Amborn said. "Cal truly feels like home. Coach Charmin is the ultimate leader and I am incredibly excited to play for someone who cares so deeply and believes in her players on and off the court. I feel so lucky to join this team."

Funny how she had literally nothing to say about the Stanford coaching staff when she announced she was transferring. But yeah, sure, the coaches aren't the problem, it's the portal and NIL...

[crackpot]

Amborn to Cal. I'm guessing she was the one who would withdraw if we changed coaches. Which presumably means they've been told Paye is staying. For a lost year in an empty gym.

I guess I can root for Cal for a year?

From the press release announcing Amborn committing to Cal:

"I cannot wait to continue my family legacy here," Amborn said. "Cal truly feels like home. Coach Charmin is the ultimate leader and I am incredibly excited to play for someone who cares so deeply and believes in her players on and off the court. I feel so lucky to join this team."

Funny how she had literally nothing to say about the Stanford coaching staff when she announced she was transferring. But yeah, sure, the coaches aren't the problem, it's the portal and NIL...

I just realized that Charmin was called back from here several-days stint in the W to become H/C after Gottlieb took the job with the Cavaliers. I guess that assistant thing does sometimes work out.

[crackpot]

Amborn to Cal. I'm guessing she was the one who would withdraw if we changed coaches. Which presumably means they've been told Paye is staying. For a lost year in an empty gym.

I guess I can root for Cal for a year?

From the press release announcing Amborn committing to Cal:

"I cannot wait to continue my family legacy here," Amborn said. "Cal truly feels like home. Coach Charmin is the ultimate leader and I am incredibly excited to play for someone who cares so deeply and believes in her players on and off the court. I feel so lucky to join this team."

Funny how she had literally nothing to say about the Stanford coaching staff when she announced she was transferring. But yeah, sure, the coaches aren't the problem, it's the portal and NIL...

I just realized that Charmin was called back from here several-days stint in the W to become H/C after Gottlieb took the job with the Cavaliers. I guess that assistant thing does sometimes work out.

[SearchingForTheTruth]

Does anyone know if there is any accurate information on revenue sharing payouts to individual players?

Do public universities need to provide this information?

Is there any information on NIL?

Does anyone know if revenue sharing is handled through a contract with the institution?

Thanks in advance for any information.

[SearchingForTheTruth]

Does anyone know if there is any accurate information on revenue sharing payouts to individual players?

Do public universities need to provide this information?

Is there any information on NIL?

Does anyone know if revenue sharing is handled through a contract with the institution?

Thanks in advance for any information.

[JohnR34231]

Amborn to Cal. I'm guessing she was the one who would withdraw if we changed coaches. Which presumably means they've been told Paye is staying. For a lost year in an empty gym.

I guess I can root for Cal for a year?

From the press release announcing Amborn committing to Cal:

"I cannot wait to continue my family legacy here," Amborn said. "Cal truly feels like home. Coach Charmin is the ultimate leader and I am incredibly excited to play for someone who cares so deeply and believes in her players on and off the court. I feel so lucky to join this team."

Funny how she had literally nothing to say about the Stanford coaching staff when she announced she was transferring. But yeah, sure, the coaches aren't the problem, it's the portal and NIL...

Makes you wonder a little why she didn't go there in the first place.

[JohnR34231]

Amborn to Cal. I'm guessing she was the one who would withdraw if we changed coaches. Which presumably means they've been told Paye is staying. For a lost year in an empty gym.

I guess I can root for Cal for a year?

From the press release announcing Amborn committing to Cal:

"I cannot wait to continue my family legacy here," Amborn said. "Cal truly feels like home. Coach Charmin is the ultimate leader and I am incredibly excited to play for someone who cares so deeply and believes in her players on and off the court. I feel so lucky to join this team."

Funny how she had literally nothing to say about the Stanford coaching staff when she announced she was transferring. But yeah, sure, the coaches aren't the problem, it's the portal and NIL...

Makes you wonder a little why she didn't go there in the first place.

[crackpot]

Amborn to Cal. I'm guessing she was the one who would withdraw if we changed coaches. Which presumably means they've been told Paye is staying. For a lost year in an empty gym.

I guess I can root for Cal for a year?

From the press release announcing Amborn committing to Cal:

"I cannot wait to continue my family legacy here," Amborn said. "Cal truly feels like home. Coach Charmin is the ultimate leader and I am incredibly excited to play for someone who cares so deeply and believes in her players on and off the court. I feel so lucky to join this team."

Funny how she had literally nothing to say about the Stanford coaching staff when she announced she was transferring. But yeah, sure, the coaches aren't the problem, it's the portal and NIL...

Makes you wonder a little why she didn't go there in the first place.

If only some Behind-the-Bench events in which we could ask the question of the freshmen, "Why did you pick Stanford?"

[crackpot]

Amborn to Cal. I'm guessing she was the one who would withdraw if we changed coaches. Which presumably means they've been told Paye is staying. For a lost year in an empty gym.

I guess I can root for Cal for a year?

From the press release announcing Amborn committing to Cal:

"I cannot wait to continue my family legacy here," Amborn said. "Cal truly feels like home. Coach Charmin is the ultimate leader and I am incredibly excited to play for someone who cares so deeply and believes in her players on and off the court. I feel so lucky to join this team."

Funny how she had literally nothing to say about the Stanford coaching staff when she announced she was transferring. But yeah, sure, the coaches aren't the problem, it's the portal and NIL...

Makes you wonder a little why she didn't go there in the first place.

If only some Behind-the-Bench events in which we could ask the question of the freshmen, "Why did you pick Stanford?"

[martyup]

It's Friday afternoon and I keep checking here to see if KP is going to be our coach again next season.  If no announcement is made today, I'm afraid this once dominant program is doomed . . .

[martyup]

It's Friday afternoon and I keep checking here to see if KP is going to be our coach again next season.  If no announcement is made today, I'm afraid this once dominant program is doomed . . .

[Griffins78]

It's Friday afternoon and I keep checking here to see if KP is going to be our coach again next season.  If no announcement is made today, I'm afraid this once dominant program is doomed . . .

Agree, Martyup. I think we’ve all been waiting all week for news from JD but now it’s Friday and not a word yet.

[Griffins78]

It's Friday afternoon and I keep checking here to see if KP is going to be our coach again next season.  If no announcement is made today, I'm afraid this once dominant program is doomed . . .

Agree, Martyup. I think we’ve all been waiting all week for news from JD but now it’s Friday and not a word yet.

[Jskass]

Indicative of how much they value the fanbase?

[Jskass]

Indicative of how much they value the fanbase?

[stopandpop]

Indicative of how much they value the fanbase?

After promising some sort of public response, Mr. Donahoe (in addition to his deafening silence and inability to address a crisis within Stanford women's basketball), has shown he can't even keep the promise he made to you and all the other Stanford fans.  

My attention moves to the rapidly closing portal window.  One must assume KP is still your coach, but does anyone realistically think she can garner 3 or 4 quality transfers within the next 3+ days?  When you look at who's left, how can she possibly field a quality team?  Actually, can she realistically even field a team?

[stopandpop]

Indicative of how much they value the fanbase?

After promising some sort of public response, Mr. Donahoe (in addition to his deafening silence and inability to address a crisis within Stanford women's basketball), has shown he can't even keep the promise he made to you and all the other Stanford fans.  

My attention moves to the rapidly closing portal window.  One must assume KP is still your coach, but does anyone realistically think she can garner 3 or 4 quality transfers within the next 3+ days?  When you look at who's left, how can she possibly field a quality team?  Actually, can she realistically even field a team?

[BobK]

Why 3-4 days. The portal is closing Monday to enter. Not to find a new home.

[BobK]

Why 3-4 days. The portal is closing Monday to enter. Not to find a new home.

[MV72018]

Indicative of how much they value the fanbase?

After promising some sort of public response, Mr. Donahoe (in addition to his deafening silence and inability to address a crisis within Stanford women's basketball), has shown he can't even keep the promise he made to you and all the other Stanford fans.  

My attention moves to the rapidly closing portal window.  One must assume KP is still your coach, but does anyone realistically think she can garner 3 or 4 quality transfers within the next 3+ days?  When you look at who's left, how can she possibly field a quality team?  Actually, can she realistically even field a team?

No response thus far to the strong email I sent him yesterday. If "radio silence" is typical, I guess I shouldn't take it personally.

[MV72018]

Indicative of how much they value the fanbase?

After promising some sort of public response, Mr. Donahoe (in addition to his deafening silence and inability to address a crisis within Stanford women's basketball), has shown he can't even keep the promise he made to you and all the other Stanford fans.  

My attention moves to the rapidly closing portal window.  One must assume KP is still your coach, but does anyone realistically think she can garner 3 or 4 quality transfers within the next 3+ days?  When you look at who's left, how can she possibly field a quality team?  Actually, can she realistically even field a team?

No response thus far to the strong email I sent him yesterday. If "radio silence" is typical, I guess I shouldn't take it personally.

[fullmetal]

Donahoe answers to the Board and to the major donors.  If he hasn't made a move, it's probably because major donors (or the Board?) are backing KP or Donahoe cannot engage a hiring firm to find a suitable, successful replacement.  It's unlikely that he's sitting on his hands because he wants to.  This is not a great situation, and there are no obvious solutions.

[fullmetal]

Donahoe answers to the Board and to the major donors.  If he hasn't made a move, it's probably because major donors (or the Board?) are backing KP or Donahoe cannot engage a hiring firm to find a suitable, successful replacement.  It's unlikely that he's sitting on his hands because he wants to.  This is not a great situation, and there are no obvious solutions.

[Card10Fan]

Indicative of how much they value the fanbase?

After promising some sort of public response, Mr. Donahoe (in addition to his deafening silence and inability to address a crisis within Stanford women's basketball), has shown he can't even keep the promise he made to you and all the other Stanford fans.  

My attention moves to the rapidly closing portal window.  One must assume KP is still your coach, but does anyone realistically think she can garner 3 or 4 quality transfers within the next 3+ days?  When you look at who's left, how can she possibly field a quality team?  Actually, can she realistically even field a team?

No response thus far to the strong email I sent him yesterday. If "radio silence" is typical, I guess I shouldn't take it personally.

I did sent him a followup email too. especially not pleased with the total silence.

[Card10Fan]

Indicative of how much they value the fanbase?

After promising some sort of public response, Mr. Donahoe (in addition to his deafening silence and inability to address a crisis within Stanford women's basketball), has shown he can't even keep the promise he made to you and all the other Stanford fans.  

My attention moves to the rapidly closing portal window.  One must assume KP is still your coach, but does anyone realistically think she can garner 3 or 4 quality transfers within the next 3+ days?  When you look at who's left, how can she possibly field a quality team?  Actually, can she realistically even field a team?

No response thus far to the strong email I sent him yesterday. If "radio silence" is typical, I guess I shouldn't take it personally.

I did sent him a followup email too. especially not pleased with the total silence.

[Griffins78]

Donahoe answers to the Board and to the major donors.  If he hasn't made a move, it's probably because major donors (or the Board?) are backing KP or Donahoe cannot engage a hiring firm to find a suitable, successful replacement.  It's unlikely that he's sitting on his hands because he wants to.  This is not a great situation, and there are no obvious solutions.

But it doesn’t stop him from communicating… something, even if it’s that no decision has been made.

[Griffins78]

Donahoe answers to the Board and to the major donors.  If he hasn't made a move, it's probably because major donors (or the Board?) are backing KP or Donahoe cannot engage a hiring firm to find a suitable, successful replacement.  It's unlikely that he's sitting on his hands because he wants to.  This is not a great situation, and there are no obvious solutions.

But it doesn’t stop him from communicating… something, even if it’s that no decision has been made.

[76lsjumb]

Indicative of how much they value the fanbase?

After promising some sort of public response, Mr. Donahoe (in addition to his deafening silence and inability to address a crisis within Stanford women's basketball), has shown he can't even keep the promise he made to you and all the other Stanford fans.  

My attention moves to the rapidly closing portal window.  One must assume KP is still your coach, but does anyone realistically think she can garner 3 or 4 quality transfers within the next 3+ days?  When you look at who's left, how can she possibly field a quality team?  Actually, can she realistically even field a team?

No response thus far to the strong email I sent him yesterday. If "radio silence" is typical, I guess I shouldn't take it personally.

I did sent him a followup email too. especially not pleased with the total silence.

With all due respect, is it really the optimal use of the Athletic Director's time to be writing personal responses to a bunch of emails from irate fans?  It seems to me that his time is better spent addressing things relating to ongoing operations, such as tomorrow's CardinalPalooza, the various ACC championships in which Stanford teams are currently participating, and the like.  Certainly, I hope he is addressing the WBB situation among those things, but writing personal responses to complaints from fans does vary little to actually address the issues in that situation.

Moreover, whether providing a statement personally or publicly, and assuming that, for whatever reasons, the decision has been made to retain Paye for next season, I'm interested in what sort of statement people think would be beneficial?  "Hello, I just wanted to let people know that we're not firing our coach!"  ? Or maybe: "Isn't it a shame that we had a lousy season and many of our upper class players have left, but we're going to plow on regardless"?  Of course, he could also say "We're keeping the coach, but I can assure that if she doesn't do a whole lot better next season, she's gone," or "My predecessor unfortunately made the wrong decision in taking Tara's advice, but, due to contractual issues, we're stuck with it for at least another year."  I'm not sure any of those would be better than silence, nor would some AI-generated pablum about how things are looking up, everyone's looking forward to next season, and so forth.  A statement like that would probably cause multiple fans' heads to explode.   In short, issuing a statement following a disappointing season in which an AD says "we're not going to fire the coach" isn't something I've seen very often.

On the other hand, if we ARE firing the coach, I certainly agree that it should have been done by now...in which case we almost certainly would have heard something already.

Finally, I imagine Donahoe will be hanging somewhere around the STM event at tomorrow's football practice [if he isn't out-of-town at some ACC tournament].  Find him and ask him in person...

[76lsjumb]

Indicative of how much they value the fanbase?

After promising some sort of public response, Mr. Donahoe (in addition to his deafening silence and inability to address a crisis within Stanford women's basketball), has shown he can't even keep the promise he made to you and all the other Stanford fans.  

My attention moves to the rapidly closing portal window.  One must assume KP is still your coach, but does anyone realistically think she can garner 3 or 4 quality transfers within the next 3+ days?  When you look at who's left, how can she possibly field a quality team?  Actually, can she realistically even field a team?

No response thus far to the strong email I sent him yesterday. If "radio silence" is typical, I guess I shouldn't take it personally.

I did sent him a followup email too. especially not pleased with the total silence.

With all due respect, is it really the optimal use of the Athletic Director's time to be writing personal responses to a bunch of emails from irate fans?  It seems to me that his time is better spent addressing things relating to ongoing operations, such as tomorrow's CardinalPalooza, the various ACC championships in which Stanford teams are currently participating, and the like.  Certainly, I hope he is addressing the WBB situation among those things, but writing personal responses to complaints from fans does vary little to actually address the issues in that situation.

Moreover, whether providing a statement personally or publicly, and assuming that, for whatever reasons, the decision has been made to retain Paye for next season, I'm interested in what sort of statement people think would be beneficial?  "Hello, I just wanted to let people know that we're not firing our coach!"  ? Or maybe: "Isn't it a shame that we had a lousy season and many of our upper class players have left, but we're going to plow on regardless"?  Of course, he could also say "We're keeping the coach, but I can assure that if she doesn't do a whole lot better next season, she's gone," or "My predecessor unfortunately made the wrong decision in taking Tara's advice, but, due to contractual issues, we're stuck with it for at least another year."  I'm not sure any of those would be better than silence, nor would some AI-generated pablum about how things are looking up, everyone's looking forward to next season, and so forth.  A statement like that would probably cause multiple fans' heads to explode.   In short, issuing a statement following a disappointing season in which an AD says "we're not going to fire the coach" isn't something I've seen very often.

On the other hand, if we ARE firing the coach, I certainly agree that it should have been done by now...in which case we almost certainly would have heard something already.

Finally, I imagine Donahoe will be hanging somewhere around the STM event at tomorrow's football practice [if he isn't out-of-town at some ACC tournament].  Find him and ask him in person...

[2006alum]

The reason he should write back is because he promised he would:

"We are being thoughtful in our approach and expect to share more publicly in the coming week."

If he thought there was no point in sharing more publicly if we were going to keep Paye, then he shouldn't have promised it not knowing the outcome of the decision. HE decided he would commit to sharing more, so that's why we're expecting it. 

And BTW, it's easy to do something even if it's to retain the coach. The only comparable situation to ours are Tennessee and Iowa State, where both teams had mass transfers and there were calls to fire the coach. BOTH ADs immediately addressed the situation publicly mere DAYS after the transfers were announced, and Tennessee fired two assistant coaches. And btw, as far as I know there were no allegations of abuse by either of their coaches, which is what makes an explanation to the public even more warranted here than there.

Here's ISU:
https://www.facebook.com/IowaStateAthlet...992498262/

Here's Tennessee (this is more recent, but recapitulating what he had said before):
https://atozsports.com/nashville/volunte...-caldwell/
https://www.facebook.com/TennesseeVolunt...527216731/

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Well, I guess we have our answer about KP:

https://gostanford.com/news/2026/04/17/w...ting-class

"STANFORD, Calif. – Setsuko Ishiyama Director of Women’s Basketball Kate Paye announced the signing of Kiara Green to an athletic financial aid agreement on Friday."

[2006alum]

The reason he should write back is because he promised he would:

"We are being thoughtful in our approach and expect to share more publicly in the coming week."

If he thought there was no point in sharing more publicly if we were going to keep Paye, then he shouldn't have promised it not knowing the outcome of the decision. HE decided he would commit to sharing more, so that's why we're expecting it. 

And BTW, it's easy to do something even if it's to retain the coach. The only comparable situation to ours are Tennessee and Iowa State, where both teams had mass transfers and there were calls to fire the coach. BOTH ADs immediately addressed the situation publicly mere DAYS after the transfers were announced, and Tennessee fired two assistant coaches. And btw, as far as I know there were no allegations of abuse by either of their coaches, which is what makes an explanation to the public even more warranted here than there.

Here's ISU:
https://www.facebook.com/IowaStateAthlet...992498262/

Here's Tennessee (this is more recent, but recapitulating what he had said before):
https://atozsports.com/nashville/volunte...-caldwell/
https://www.facebook.com/TennesseeVolunt...527216731/

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Well, I guess we have our answer about KP:

https://gostanford.com/news/2026/04/17/w...ting-class

"STANFORD, Calif. – Setsuko Ishiyama Director of Women’s Basketball Kate Paye announced the signing of Kiara Green to an athletic financial aid agreement on Friday."