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Also in a related link, the 17 best pro-style passers.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/25945...ks/page/10

Hogan is #6.  I probably would have taken a few more points off for arm strength (he got a 22/25 despite this narrative, "Coaches aren't going to teach their players to throw like Kevin Hogan, whose delivery could best be described as a mix between a shot put and a sidearm sling. He can't go very deep, often underthrowing long routes, but Stanford didn't take that approach enough to make it an issue."), but I would give a few more points for mobility and intangibles.

BC

I haven't watched most of those guys enough to have a good feel of where I think there relative rankings should be - my rough intuition is the rank-order itself may be fine.
BUT, there is a lot not to like in that (annoyingly click through) article.

First of all, while I am not sure of Hogan's arm strength, he has been pretty accurate on deep balls, and as far as I can tell has missed as many long as short.

Secondly, for most of their categories they are working with a 25 point scale but give almost everyone the same numbers, regardless of their comments.
So, arm strength has every single guy except Christian Hackenberg between 21 and 23. (Hackenberg is at 24 - and outside of being a top HS recruit it's hard to see why he is on anyone's list of top XX quarterbacks: he threw for less yards than Hogan, PER=124 (83rd), 82nd in ESPN's QBR.)

For that matter, #2-12 all have a total rating between 86 and 89, with about 3-4 guys at each number. So, really everybody is the same.


They have these kinds of excellent agreement between statements and ratings:

on Brissett at NC State: " I don't see great arm strength"
Arm Strength rarting 23/25 (tied for second).

on Cook at MSU: "For a player who's had as much success as Cook, he throws a lot of incomplete passes. All three of his seasons as starter have seen him complete fewer than 60 percent of his throws"
Accuracy: 23/25

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I think there are a few issues with Hogan w.r.t. the NFL: his long throwing motion means he takes longer to get the ball out; he has generally not had to shoulder an NFL-level passing load and it is not clear how well he could do so; when he has a bad day he tends to have a really bad day (his <100 PER games: 2 in 2015, 2 in 2014, 2 in 2013; all but one of those <90).

[CTcard]

Also in a related link, the 17 best pro-style passers.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/25945...ks/page/10

Hogan is #6.  I probably would have taken a few more points off for arm strength (he got a 22/25 despite this narrative, "Coaches aren't going to teach their players to throw like Kevin Hogan, whose delivery could best be described as a mix between a shot put and a sidearm sling. He can't go very deep, often underthrowing long routes, but Stanford didn't take that approach enough to make it an issue."), but I would give a few more points for mobility and intangibles.

BC

I haven't watched most of those guys enough to have a good feel of where I think there relative rankings should be - my rough intuition is the rank-order itself may be fine.
BUT, there is a lot not to like in that (annoyingly click through) article.

First of all, while I am not sure of Hogan's arm strength, he has been pretty accurate on deep balls, and as far as I can tell has missed as many long as short.

Secondly, for most of their categories they are working with a 25 point scale but give almost everyone the same numbers, regardless of their comments.
So, arm strength has every single guy except Christian Hackenberg between 21 and 23. (Hackenberg is at 24 - and outside of being a top HS recruit it's hard to see why he is on anyone's list of top XX quarterbacks: he threw for less yards than Hogan, PER=124 (83rd), 82nd in ESPN's QBR.)

For that matter, #2-12 all have a total rating between 86 and 89, with about 3-4 guys at each number. So, really everybody is the same.


They have these kinds of excellent agreement between statements and ratings:

on Brissett at NC State: " I don't see great arm strength"
Arm Strength rarting 23/25 (tied for second).

on Cook at MSU: "For a player who's had as much success as Cook, he throws a lot of incomplete passes. All three of his seasons as starter have seen him complete fewer than 60 percent of his throws"
Accuracy: 23/25

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I think there are a few issues with Hogan w.r.t. the NFL: his long throwing motion means he takes longer to get the ball out; he has generally not had to shoulder an NFL-level passing load and it is not clear how well he could do so; when he has a bad day he tends to have a really bad day (his <100 PER games: 2 in 2015, 2 in 2014, 2 in 2013; all but one of those <90).