[Phogge]

I go by the eye test. In 2009 Toby was better than Ingram, in '15 McCaffrey clearly deserved the trophy. Whatever the reason, whether reverse racism, poor TV times in the East or a few Cal stalwart voters like Barry Tompkins both guys got robbed. Probably also Andrew in the Griffin year.

The most exciting running back I saw was Hugh McElhenny and I've seen them all since the early 50's. Buck Shaw knew how to use him and he shared carries with another HOF back in Joe Perry. A multiple and devastating attack. The 49ers were a competent defense away from multiple titles. The point is not when Christian is drafted but by whom and how is he used.

[Phogge]

I go by the eye test. In 2009 Toby was better than Ingram, in '15 McCaffrey clearly deserved the trophy. Whatever the reason, whether reverse racism, poor TV times in the East or a few Cal stalwart voters like Barry Tompkins both guys got robbed. Probably also Andrew in the Griffin year.

The most exciting running back I saw was Hugh McElhenny and I've seen them all since the early 50's. Buck Shaw knew how to use him and he shared carries with another HOF back in Joe Perry. A multiple and devastating attack. The 49ers were a competent defense away from multiple titles. The point is not when Christian is drafted but by whom and how is he used.