[FarmBoy]

[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=17729.msg207072#msg207072 date=1508420590]
I think you are overstating what Indi would be able to fetch for Luck in a trade.  Right now, you have an “injury prone” qb (with a throwing shoulder injury, no less).  Who knows if he can or will get back from this.  Moreover, even before the injury, Luck was hardly an “elite” qb.  Even at his peak, he was considered among the second-tier qb’s.  Not necessarily his fault, but he threw lots of interceptions (though many were thrown trying to come back in a game).

Bottom line, I think the assessment that a team might give up a second round draft pick for Luck seems more likely than the one that assumes Indi gets a treasure trove of draft picks.

BC

I don't ever recall Luck being considered a second tier quarterback, of course I guess that depends on how many tiers you have. His QBR during his first four seasons was never below 11th in the league. I remember the pundits commenting on his tremendous ability and potential given what he had to work with at Indy. IIRC,  his only main detractors were Skip Witless and Phil Simms.
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His elite status was ALWAYS up for debate. His stats were not great (from an efficiency standpoint), but it was always a question of whether that was teh team's fault (bad OLine, few targets) or his. He only made the pro-bowl because other players dropped out. He only had one season of >60% completion, He was never top of the leauge in rating/QBR.

[FarmBoy]

[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=17729.msg207072#msg207072 date=1508420590]
I think you are overstating what Indi would be able to fetch for Luck in a trade.  Right now, you have an “injury prone” qb (with a throwing shoulder injury, no less).  Who knows if he can or will get back from this.  Moreover, even before the injury, Luck was hardly an “elite” qb.  Even at his peak, he was considered among the second-tier qb’s.  Not necessarily his fault, but he threw lots of interceptions (though many were thrown trying to come back in a game).

Bottom line, I think the assessment that a team might give up a second round draft pick for Luck seems more likely than the one that assumes Indi gets a treasure trove of draft picks.

BC

I don't ever recall Luck being considered a second tier quarterback, of course I guess that depends on how many tiers you have. His QBR during his first four seasons was never below 11th in the league. I remember the pundits commenting on his tremendous ability and potential given what he had to work with at Indy. IIRC,  his only main detractors were Skip Witless and Phil Simms.
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His elite status was ALWAYS up for debate. His stats were not great (from an efficiency standpoint), but it was always a question of whether that was teh team's fault (bad OLine, few targets) or his. He only made the pro-bowl because other players dropped out. He only had one season of >60% completion, He was never top of the leauge in rating/QBR.