[NDIrish]

Another thing about Sullivan. It's not like he couldn't have taken the scissor lift down and protected himself when he felt it was dangerous. This is the part that has confused me about the hole sorry episode. Why on Earth did he stay up there?  Was he thinking he'd be admonished or fired if he got down?  It's impossible for me to believe he would have been told anything other than "glad you got down."

So while I agree some measure of occupational safety should ideally have been in place. I don't need someone ordering me to avoid driving into oncoming traffic either. Sometimes people are at fault for mishaps simply due to doing dumb things of their own volition.

Just watch any number of YouTube videos of people doing dumb things and paying a price for it, to prove my point.

I agree he could have went down, and should have on his own - but that does not excuse the responsibility of the university. Yes each person can make their own choices, but there should have been measures in place to make sure he never went up.  I believe that is a big reason why the parents feel the way they do about the university.

[NDIrish]

Another thing about Sullivan. It's not like he couldn't have taken the scissor lift down and protected himself when he felt it was dangerous. This is the part that has confused me about the hole sorry episode. Why on Earth did he stay up there?  Was he thinking he'd be admonished or fired if he got down?  It's impossible for me to believe he would have been told anything other than "glad you got down."

So while I agree some measure of occupational safety should ideally have been in place. I don't need someone ordering me to avoid driving into oncoming traffic either. Sometimes people are at fault for mishaps simply due to doing dumb things of their own volition.

Just watch any number of YouTube videos of people doing dumb things and paying a price for it, to prove my point.

I agree he could have went down, and should have on his own - but that does not excuse the responsibility of the university. Yes each person can make their own choices, but there should have been measures in place to make sure he never went up.  I believe that is a big reason why the parents feel the way they do about the university.