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And I’m calling BS on your BS. 57 percent pass rate (and rising) does not lie. The offense has changed markedly.

I’m not a fan of so-called turtling either. I hated the 4th Q vs ASU. I also remember Flemming saying that running three times on that last drive to force ASU to use all its TO’s was the wrong strategy as ASU even without timeouts would prob have enough time. I agreed with him. Funny thing is, he was wrong. ASU in fact DID run out of time.

Now, of course, with the luxury of second guessing we are all certain that if he did pass on one of those downs, they’d get a completion and a first down. ASU would be out of TO’s. Victory formation. Of course, it’s just also possible there is an incompletion, sack, or worse. Leaving ASU with a TO. Which would have made that last drive potentially quite different.

UCLA, my only complaint is I would have has Scarlett in on the 3d and I in the penultimate series.

Shaw’s late game with a lead philosophy was explained: I’m going to run the ball, make them burn timeouts, rely on my defense and make their offense be perfect. You can argue with it. But what you cannot argue is that despite all of our bitching and moaning over “turtling” (and I’m right there bitching and moaning) Shaw’s philosophy has worked remarkably well. They do not lose games they lead by more than 7 going into the 4th. Period.

This team with these injuries was not a 9-2 team. In fact, they just as easily could by 4-7 right now. (Oregon, ASU, UCLA. 3 close wins. All on the road. Oregon was playing well at the time. ASU mediocre but dangerous. And game 12 UCLA was not game 1 UCLA)

Carberry- Do you know in what way he’s been deficient this year? What techniques is he teaching that you don’t like? Do you think perhaps the fact that their top seven line men have been hurt made a bit of a difference. Washington State played with the same five offensive line guys all year. They srptarted every game. Stanford did not have one game in which the line they expected to start the season with played together for a full game. In fact, I don’t think that 5 ever started a game together.

Tavita. Really? I think he’s done very well flipping this offense. You think it was a game or two late fine. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t who knows. It’s easy to sit on your butt and make those decisions. Little tougher when you’re the one pulling the trigger. And quite frankly name the game they lost as a result? There isn’t one. Notre Dame was a significantly better team. And by the time of the Utah game they were already throwing the ball a lot. This simply gave away too many points in the game. (27 by my count) BTW - One of the big knocks on Tavita was that he couldnt develop quarterbacks. Well, does he get any credit for Costello’s marked improvement? If not, why not? So besides the fact that Tavita has been a nice little whipping boy for a few years please explain why you think he should be shown the door.

You didn’t mention firing Lance, I don’t think. But somebody did. This is the guy who’s been the darling of Stanford fans regarding its football coaches for years with his excellent halftime adjustments etc. Nobody complained about Anderson. But the talent level dropped off, they’re not playing all that well so all of a sudden he’s forgotten how to coach. I guess Akina has as well as they really struggled in the defensive backfield.

They missed some extra points this year too. So get rid of Alamar.

Shaw needs to up his recruiting game. That is a very valid criticism. Why they don’t have all there schollies filled is a mystery to me.

But on the field this year, they adjusted nicely. As a result they have another shot at an 8 win season. With the limitations they had coming in defensively, coupled with all the injuries, I actually think that’s an overachievement

I'm calling BS on this.

He said the same kind of thing after the Wazzu loss last year, but showed little evidence of it until the last couple of games. And in two of the last four games (ASU, UCLA) where we had a lead, when push came to shove in crunch time, he reverted to his old bad habits and put the outcome of those games at risk by relying on the two weakest elements of this team - running game and defense.

Even if I'm wrong, he still took too long to learn it this year. Why is it that a lot of fans and media recognized the strengths and weaknesses of this team weeks before he did?

There are many, many positives to Coach Shaw but recognizing what his team is - and isn't - and adjusting gameplans and playcalling to those strengths and weaknesses is not one of them. You go to battle with the army you have, not the one you want to have. I maintain that had he done so this team would be 9-2 not 7-4. You also hire great people to cover your weak spots, and I think that neither Pritchard nor Carberry have done him any favors here and both were bad hires that need to be replaced this offseason.

[lex24]

And I’m calling BS on your BS. 57 percent pass rate (and rising) does not lie. The offense has changed markedly.

I’m not a fan of so-called turtling either. I hated the 4th Q vs ASU. I also remember Flemming saying that running three times on that last drive to force ASU to use all its TO’s was the wrong strategy as ASU even without timeouts would prob have enough time. I agreed with him. Funny thing is, he was wrong. ASU in fact DID run out of time.

Now, of course, with the luxury of second guessing we are all certain that if he did pass on one of those downs, they’d get a completion and a first down. ASU would be out of TO’s. Victory formation. Of course, it’s just also possible there is an incompletion, sack, or worse. Leaving ASU with a TO. Which would have made that last drive potentially quite different.

UCLA, my only complaint is I would have has Scarlett in on the 3d and I in the penultimate series.

Shaw’s late game with a lead philosophy was explained: I’m going to run the ball, make them burn timeouts, rely on my defense and make their offense be perfect. You can argue with it. But what you cannot argue is that despite all of our bitching and moaning over “turtling” (and I’m right there bitching and moaning) Shaw’s philosophy has worked remarkably well. They do not lose games they lead by more than 7 going into the 4th. Period.

This team with these injuries was not a 9-2 team. In fact, they just as easily could by 4-7 right now. (Oregon, ASU, UCLA. 3 close wins. All on the road. Oregon was playing well at the time. ASU mediocre but dangerous. And game 12 UCLA was not game 1 UCLA)

Carberry- Do you know in what way he’s been deficient this year? What techniques is he teaching that you don’t like? Do you think perhaps the fact that their top seven line men have been hurt made a bit of a difference. Washington State played with the same five offensive line guys all year. They srptarted every game. Stanford did not have one game in which the line they expected to start the season with played together for a full game. In fact, I don’t think that 5 ever started a game together.

Tavita. Really? I think he’s done very well flipping this offense. You think it was a game or two late fine. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t who knows. It’s easy to sit on your butt and make those decisions. Little tougher when you’re the one pulling the trigger. And quite frankly name the game they lost as a result? There isn’t one. Notre Dame was a significantly better team. And by the time of the Utah game they were already throwing the ball a lot. This simply gave away too many points in the game. (27 by my count) BTW - One of the big knocks on Tavita was that he couldnt develop quarterbacks. Well, does he get any credit for Costello’s marked improvement? If not, why not? So besides the fact that Tavita has been a nice little whipping boy for a few years please explain why you think he should be shown the door.

You didn’t mention firing Lance, I don’t think. But somebody did. This is the guy who’s been the darling of Stanford fans regarding its football coaches for years with his excellent halftime adjustments etc. Nobody complained about Anderson. But the talent level dropped off, they’re not playing all that well so all of a sudden he’s forgotten how to coach. I guess Akina has as well as they really struggled in the defensive backfield.

They missed some extra points this year too. So get rid of Alamar.

Shaw needs to up his recruiting game. That is a very valid criticism. Why they don’t have all there schollies filled is a mystery to me.

But on the field this year, they adjusted nicely. As a result they have another shot at an 8 win season. With the limitations they had coming in defensively, coupled with all the injuries, I actually think that’s an overachievement

I'm calling BS on this.

He said the same kind of thing after the Wazzu loss last year, but showed little evidence of it until the last couple of games. And in two of the last four games (ASU, UCLA) where we had a lead, when push came to shove in crunch time, he reverted to his old bad habits and put the outcome of those games at risk by relying on the two weakest elements of this team - running game and defense.

Even if I'm wrong, he still took too long to learn it this year. Why is it that a lot of fans and media recognized the strengths and weaknesses of this team weeks before he did?

There are many, many positives to Coach Shaw but recognizing what his team is - and isn't - and adjusting gameplans and playcalling to those strengths and weaknesses is not one of them. You go to battle with the army you have, not the one you want to have. I maintain that had he done so this team would be 9-2 not 7-4. You also hire great people to cover your weak spots, and I think that neither Pritchard nor Carberry have done him any favors here and both were bad hires that need to be replaced this offseason.