[d4cohn]

On Patterson:

74. Gary Patterson, 172-70
TCU (2000-present)
Patterson has the rare distinction of winning conference titles (and being named Coach of the Year) in three different leagues at the same school. He shepherded the Horned Frogs from Conference USA to the Mountain West to the Big 12. His teams have won six league titles, posted seven top-10 finishes and played in 17 bowl games in his 20 seasons. In 2010, TCU went 13-0 and defeated Wisconsin 21-19 in the Rose Bowl.


On Johnson:
102. Paul Johnson, 189-99
Georgia Southern (1997-2001; 62-10), Navy (2002-07; 45-29), Georgia Tech (2008-18; 82-60)
Johnson guided Georgia Southern to a pair of I-AA national titles in five years before taking his triple-option offense to Navy and Georgia Tech. At Navy, he helped end the program's 43-game losing streak to Notre Dame and won the Commander-in-Chief's Trophy five times. Johnson was named ACC Coach of the Year three times at Georgia Tech.


On Kelly:

89. Brian Kelly, 241-93-2
Grand Valley State (1991-2003; 118-35-2), Central Michigan (2004-06; 19-16), Cincinnati (2006-09; 34-6) and Notre Dame (2010-current; 70-36)
Kelly led Grand Valley State to two Division II national championships. He won conference titles at Central Michigan (MAC) and Cincinnati (Big East). Though he hasn't won a national title at Notre Dame, he has come close: a BCS championship game loss in 2012 and a playoff semifinal loss in 2018. More importantly, he restored respectability to the Fighting Irish.


David Shaw's record is 86-34, so he's about halfway to Patterson's win total and behind Johnson and Kelly.  Both Kelly and Johnson won a national title (albeit not with an FBS team) and Kelly has gone to the BCS championship and college football playoffs; Patterson has that 13-0 season.  I pass for a "Shawpologist" in these parts, but I disagree that he being left off the list is an omission, or that some of the coaches on the list don't compare favorably to him.

Let's see what Shaw can do with another 10 years.  If he recapitulates what he did in his first 8, then he will belong on the list.  If we see what we have seen over the last 2, then he won't.

BC

I guess I just don't put as much stalk into Patterson's, Johnson's and Kelly's I-AA or non P5 results. P5 football is a totally different animal than competing at the I-AA or non P5 level. To wit, Patterson has 1 conference title since TCU joined the Big 12 (and he also missed a bowl this year).

Like I said, I don't think Coach Shaw should necessarily be included, but I don't think particularly Paul Johnson and Patterson should be included either.

Stanford also could have gone to the playoff in either 2011, 2012, or 2013 if the playoff existed then (2013 might have been their best argument, as they finished #5 in final BCS rankings).

[d4cohn]

On Patterson:

74. Gary Patterson, 172-70
TCU (2000-present)
Patterson has the rare distinction of winning conference titles (and being named Coach of the Year) in three different leagues at the same school. He shepherded the Horned Frogs from Conference USA to the Mountain West to the Big 12. His teams have won six league titles, posted seven top-10 finishes and played in 17 bowl games in his 20 seasons. In 2010, TCU went 13-0 and defeated Wisconsin 21-19 in the Rose Bowl.


On Johnson:
102. Paul Johnson, 189-99
Georgia Southern (1997-2001; 62-10), Navy (2002-07; 45-29), Georgia Tech (2008-18; 82-60)
Johnson guided Georgia Southern to a pair of I-AA national titles in five years before taking his triple-option offense to Navy and Georgia Tech. At Navy, he helped end the program's 43-game losing streak to Notre Dame and won the Commander-in-Chief's Trophy five times. Johnson was named ACC Coach of the Year three times at Georgia Tech.


On Kelly:

89. Brian Kelly, 241-93-2
Grand Valley State (1991-2003; 118-35-2), Central Michigan (2004-06; 19-16), Cincinnati (2006-09; 34-6) and Notre Dame (2010-current; 70-36)
Kelly led Grand Valley State to two Division II national championships. He won conference titles at Central Michigan (MAC) and Cincinnati (Big East). Though he hasn't won a national title at Notre Dame, he has come close: a BCS championship game loss in 2012 and a playoff semifinal loss in 2018. More importantly, he restored respectability to the Fighting Irish.


David Shaw's record is 86-34, so he's about halfway to Patterson's win total and behind Johnson and Kelly.  Both Kelly and Johnson won a national title (albeit not with an FBS team) and Kelly has gone to the BCS championship and college football playoffs; Patterson has that 13-0 season.  I pass for a "Shawpologist" in these parts, but I disagree that he being left off the list is an omission, or that some of the coaches on the list don't compare favorably to him.

Let's see what Shaw can do with another 10 years.  If he recapitulates what he did in his first 8, then he will belong on the list.  If we see what we have seen over the last 2, then he won't.

BC

I guess I just don't put as much stalk into Patterson's, Johnson's and Kelly's I-AA or non P5 results. P5 football is a totally different animal than competing at the I-AA or non P5 level. To wit, Patterson has 1 conference title since TCU joined the Big 12 (and he also missed a bowl this year).

Like I said, I don't think Coach Shaw should necessarily be included, but I don't think particularly Paul Johnson and Patterson should be included either.

Stanford also could have gone to the playoff in either 2011, 2012, or 2013 if the playoff existed then (2013 might have been their best argument, as they finished #5 in final BCS rankings).