[Brickcity]

Also, before you all blithely conclude "that never happens" - word is that is exactly what happened after Kelley's one losing season at ND.  And they have been largely excellent since then.

LOL; they've been so excellent since then that Brian Kelly just fired his offensive coordinator:


https://irish.nbcsports.com/2019/12/12/n...chip-long/

BC

They still went 11-2, dude. And they are cleaning our clock in recruiting.

https://irish.nbcsports.com/2019/12/12/n...chip-long/
"Chip Long authored the two highest-scoring seasons of Brian Kelly's time at Notre Dame, along with two of the four best-gaining offenses."

The firing seems a little like grass-is-greener syndrome to me. Regardless, I have no idea how you can argue with teejers' point. ND turned it around after firing half their staff after 4-8...10-3, 12-1, 11-2. Going 11-2 with an apparently crappy (?) OC sounds WONDERFUL to me right now.

So you're saying you would rather have Brian Kelly at Stanford than David Shaw?

To each his own...

"So you're saying you would rather have Brian Kelly at Stanford than David Shaw?" 

So, you're saying that it's impossible to be an extremely successful head coach (Kelly) and also be a good guy (Shaw)? My guess is that it's very possible to do both. I just don't know if Shaw is capable of being both.

[Brickcity]

Also, before you all blithely conclude "that never happens" - word is that is exactly what happened after Kelley's one losing season at ND.  And they have been largely excellent since then.

LOL; they've been so excellent since then that Brian Kelly just fired his offensive coordinator:


https://irish.nbcsports.com/2019/12/12/n...chip-long/

BC

They still went 11-2, dude. And they are cleaning our clock in recruiting.

https://irish.nbcsports.com/2019/12/12/n...chip-long/
"Chip Long authored the two highest-scoring seasons of Brian Kelly's time at Notre Dame, along with two of the four best-gaining offenses."

The firing seems a little like grass-is-greener syndrome to me. Regardless, I have no idea how you can argue with teejers' point. ND turned it around after firing half their staff after 4-8...10-3, 12-1, 11-2. Going 11-2 with an apparently crappy (?) OC sounds WONDERFUL to me right now.

So you're saying you would rather have Brian Kelly at Stanford than David Shaw?

To each his own...

"So you're saying you would rather have Brian Kelly at Stanford than David Shaw?" 

So, you're saying that it's impossible to be an extremely successful head coach (Kelly) and also be a good guy (Shaw)? My guess is that it's very possible to do both. I just don't know if Shaw is capable of being both.