(01-09-2020, 09:28 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: It's fine to have an opinion, but too many things are being conflated for me to take the guilty until proven innocent takes on Kapler too seriously.
To be clear, I'm not claiming Kapler was a great hire or that he will win a bunch of games nobody thinks the Giants would be winning without him. All I have done is demonstrate why he was hired and that nobody who has a sound understanding of what makes baseball teams win more than half their games, is going to hold Kapler responsible for the Giants losing more than half their games, because the talent just isn't there.
Now, people can blame Kapler for the coming losses, but will they be rightfully laying responsibility for losing where it lies, really? Not if the comments like "how he handled the (Dodgers) situation" and "coconut oil" are being used to preemptively judge the guy. Even his record as Phillies manager isn't a fair assessment because there is a lot of evidence that suggest managers do better in their 2nd job (Joe Torre, Bobby Cox, Bruce Bochy, and Tony LaRussa to name four). Farhan is not dumb. In fact, by measures many here believe in (degree brand and academic performance), he's one of the smartest guys in the game.
The reality is people who don't like Kapler aren't going to withhold judgement. Thats fine, but don't expect me to take opinions from those hell bent on pre-judgment all that seriously.
You aren’t getting it. I’m not saying that he should be to blame. I’m saying he will be blamed. Fans are much more likely to give slack to somebody that they like. He comes in as somebody that a lot of people don’t like. Thus when things turn south – as I suspect they will, I believe he will be the one the fans take their wrath out on. I’m not suggesting it’s right. I’m not suggesting it’s fair. I’m just suggesting that’s what will happen.
I didn’t like the hire for some off field reasons, but primarily because he failed miserably at Philadelphia. They ran him out of town in two years and they barely could wait that long. Maybe that was “unfair”. But it’s the reality. So I’ll leave you the last word I’m done. And again I hope I’m wrong I hope he’s the greatest things
since Swiss cheese. I want the Giants to succeed
(01-09-2020, 10:00 AM)76lsjumb Wrote: “Opinions from those hell bent on pre-judgment” is pretty much the dictionary definition of a fan board...
Touché.
