Thanks for this thread - those were really informative explanations of what went wrong, when, how, and why. My fear at this point is that until we have an antibody test, confirmation that the virus can't mutate quickly and render said antibodies meaningless, and a widely available vaccine, we will be stuck in some cycle of this new normal for the duration.
This Administration does not seem to think testing is critical, and it has become abundantly clear to me that we have neither the infrastructure in place to do testing, contact tracing, and isolation the way countries like South Korea and Taiwan have been able to do to minimize the social and economic costs of the virus. Nor does there seem to be the will among the politicos to implement such a process at the nationwide level. And it has to be national: even if the Santa Clara Health Commissioner were the world's finest, he or she can't isolate cases coming from outside Santa Clara all on her own.
This has to be nationally coordinated, and we need to accept that it will not be nationally coordinated. Instead, people will die, and those of us lucky not to be among them will live in fear until we get vaccinated or are confronted with the russian roulette of being infected. It's just so damn depressing. And maybe the only sliver of hope is treatments like antibody plasma transfer and hydrochloroquine, if it by chance seems to help. But even then, the only individuals treated with those therapies thus far are ones admitted to the hospital, which means much of the social cost of the virus to that individual will already have been wrought.
At a certain point, it may become prudent to "read the room." Perhaps you'd find more satisfaction sharing your views among those 60% likeminded folks than here among those of us who think otherwise.
This Administration does not seem to think testing is critical, and it has become abundantly clear to me that we have neither the infrastructure in place to do testing, contact tracing, and isolation the way countries like South Korea and Taiwan have been able to do to minimize the social and economic costs of the virus. Nor does there seem to be the will among the politicos to implement such a process at the nationwide level. And it has to be national: even if the Santa Clara Health Commissioner were the world's finest, he or she can't isolate cases coming from outside Santa Clara all on her own.
This has to be nationally coordinated, and we need to accept that it will not be nationally coordinated. Instead, people will die, and those of us lucky not to be among them will live in fear until we get vaccinated or are confronted with the russian roulette of being infected. It's just so damn depressing. And maybe the only sliver of hope is treatments like antibody plasma transfer and hydrochloroquine, if it by chance seems to help. But even then, the only individuals treated with those therapies thus far are ones admitted to the hospital, which means much of the social cost of the virus to that individual will already have been wrought.
(03-26-2020, 07:56 AM)cardcrimson Wrote: So please, stop with the constant automatic criticisms of Trump and the administration. People are dying by the thousands and we as a country need to resolve it. By the way, 60% of Americans approve of Trump's handling of the crisis so far. If the Cardboard were a measure, it be 99% think he should be tried for mass murder.
At a certain point, it may become prudent to "read the room." Perhaps you'd find more satisfaction sharing your views among those 60% likeminded folks than here among those of us who think otherwise.
