[teejers1]

You could be right, though I admit to not being sure I fully understand you.
The ND students are there, living in dorms, and taking classes remotely.
Are you saying that returning to classes (which I assume some, but not all will do) will cause the spread?

Also, ND is testing regularly, aren't they?  The dashboard tells you number of tests, positive results, etc.

Again, maybe you're right.  I'm not sure I see the "resurgence" event that you think is a gimme (after 15 days or so).  

But I guess we'll see.

My point is the ND bubble will not be like the NBA bubble.

The NBA has literally EVERYONE in the bubble, the TV crews, the coaches and the players.   They have a couple of supply access points, but only the items go in not the people.

For two weeks Notre Dame has been closed with people still on campus, but with the students not acting as students.

Let's see what happens when the students are given the all clear.   When they confidently go from class to class, from group study session to group study session, and resume off campus excursions.   Let's see what happens when faculty are tasked with making appearances in on campus classrooms.   And let's see what happens when those essential workers need to move around those two groups (students and faculty) daily to keep the now fully functioning campus clean.

Notre Dame is testing often.  However they were testing initially and it fell apart in just a week.  

On a positive note this time all of the students have been in South Bend, Indiana.   I would guess part of their failure the first time was students came to campus pre-symptomatic from all over the USA.   Presumably some tested negative as they were only recently exposed to COVID, but then moved around campus that first week in a contagious phase for COVID while believing they didn't have COVID.  If the students really have stayed in an ND bubble for ~2 weeks then it might be better this time.
  
Guess we will see.

Still - Before we declare victory if they open for 2 weeks.   Another caveat.

A number of schools are "open" in name only.   They have almost all classes online only.   A number of schools have required some students to live on campus which conveniently loads up the dorms ($$$).  Many require them to buy grab-n-back to dorm room food ($$$).   But in most cases there are very, very few classes in person on a daily basis.   As the schools are "open" they get full tuition, full room and full board revenue, but in many cases it is not exactly the open and functioning experience I suspect you believe is happening.

No, I get what is happening (and why) and agree that, as with all things, $$ is the driving force in risk-benefit anlysis.

Thought my prior posts, including one on speculating about ND gutting it out, was pretty clear on this.

[teejers1]

You could be right, though I admit to not being sure I fully understand you.
The ND students are there, living in dorms, and taking classes remotely.
Are you saying that returning to classes (which I assume some, but not all will do) will cause the spread?

Also, ND is testing regularly, aren't they?  The dashboard tells you number of tests, positive results, etc.

Again, maybe you're right.  I'm not sure I see the "resurgence" event that you think is a gimme (after 15 days or so).  

But I guess we'll see.

My point is the ND bubble will not be like the NBA bubble.

The NBA has literally EVERYONE in the bubble, the TV crews, the coaches and the players.   They have a couple of supply access points, but only the items go in not the people.

For two weeks Notre Dame has been closed with people still on campus, but with the students not acting as students.

Let's see what happens when the students are given the all clear.   When they confidently go from class to class, from group study session to group study session, and resume off campus excursions.   Let's see what happens when faculty are tasked with making appearances in on campus classrooms.   And let's see what happens when those essential workers need to move around those two groups (students and faculty) daily to keep the now fully functioning campus clean.

Notre Dame is testing often.  However they were testing initially and it fell apart in just a week.  

On a positive note this time all of the students have been in South Bend, Indiana.   I would guess part of their failure the first time was students came to campus pre-symptomatic from all over the USA.   Presumably some tested negative as they were only recently exposed to COVID, but then moved around campus that first week in a contagious phase for COVID while believing they didn't have COVID.  If the students really have stayed in an ND bubble for ~2 weeks then it might be better this time.
  
Guess we will see.

Still - Before we declare victory if they open for 2 weeks.   Another caveat.

A number of schools are "open" in name only.   They have almost all classes online only.   A number of schools have required some students to live on campus which conveniently loads up the dorms ($$$).  Many require them to buy grab-n-back to dorm room food ($$$).   But in most cases there are very, very few classes in person on a daily basis.   As the schools are "open" they get full tuition, full room and full board revenue, but in many cases it is not exactly the open and functioning experience I suspect you believe is happening.

No, I get what is happening (and why) and agree that, as with all things, $$ is the driving force in risk-benefit anlysis.

Thought my prior posts, including one on speculating about ND gutting it out, was pretty clear on this.