(10-05-2020, 05:45 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:(10-05-2020, 05:30 AM)JustAnotherFan Wrote:(10-04-2020, 04:53 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: We live in an Idiocracy. Is there any reason the candidates must be on a stage together?
Of course there is no bigger idiot than the VPOTUS. The POTUS is in the hospital in serious condition. As the next in-line the VPOTUS should be in Washington ready to take over if need be, not flying around the country doing campaign events. Not to mention, he should be quarantining anyway due to his contacts at the super spread event at Rose Garden.
And, even if he hasn't taken over for POTUS, he should have addressed the nation to assure everyone the government will function no matter what happens, and lay out the chains succession in a calm and measured way. Just another log thrown on the conflagration of incompetence by the current White House management.
I typically agree with you but boy do I disagree with you here. VPOTUS is not an idiot. He knows that if he showed any willingness to prepare for Trump's death that Trump would fire him. He has to loyally bide his time to appease his dear leader in order to stay in his good graces. He knows that if Trump dies that that will be his moment. But not a moment sooner. It's not about the country, it is about the Trump brand, and then it is about him.
This mentality is manifestly why we are in the disaster we are in. People treat the POTUS like a spoiled child and indulge his every whim, and or fear for their own asses over the interest of the country to enable him at every turn. It's just sickening to see a 74 year old child man ripping apart every last edifice of best practice governance, and how many people allow him to do it with impunity.
Pence speaking to the country to tell us how things work would be prudent. No, I would never in a billion years vote for him, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a responsibility to make sure the American people are informed and that he and the administration are following proper procedures. Dexamethasone is known to impair judgement and cause psychotic episodes from what I have gathered. Not speaking to us tells us the POTUS matter more than the country he is suppose to lead. That is not only wrong, but dangerous.
No, it would not be prudent. Trump isn’t incapacitated. That was not the time for a VP to take center stage. For obvious reasons. And what is the “proper procedure“. He wasn’t shot. He’s not in the hospital under anesthesia. Indeed the only time the 25th has been invoked is when Bush went in for a colonoscopy was going under and signed the order so that Cheney would be in charge during the time that he was under anesthesia. This is not remotely like that.
As for “Telling us how things work” I have no idea what you mean. Was he supposed to give us a quick little civics lessons. It sound like a freaking vulture. There’s absolutely no reason for Pence to address the country. None.
BTW if you wanna blame a president for being irresponsible in his dying days look at FDR. Truman didn’t even know about the Manhattan project. That was potentially dangerous .
(10-05-2020, 05:30 AM)JustAnotherFan Wrote:(10-04-2020, 04:53 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: We live in an Idiocracy. Is there any reason the candidates must be on a stage together?
Of course there is no bigger idiot than the VPOTUS. The POTUS is in the hospital in serious condition. As the next in-line the VPOTUS should be in Washington ready to take over if need be, not flying around the country doing campaign events. Not to mention, he should be quarantining anyway due to his contacts at the super spread event at Rose Garden.
And, even if he hasn't taken over for POTUS, he should have addressed the nation to assure everyone the government will function no matter what happens, and lay out the chains succession in a calm and measured way. Just another log thrown on the conflagration of incompetence by the current White House management.
I typically agree with you but boy do I disagree with you here. VPOTUS is not an idiot. He knows that if he showed any willingness to prepare for Trump's death that Trump would fire him. He has to loyally bide his time to appease his dear leader in order to stay in his good graces. He knows that if Trump dies that that will be his moment. But not a moment sooner. It's not about the country, it is about the Trump brand, and then it is about him.
VPs are generally on the outside looking in. Hell, Truman had no idea of the Manhattan profect. You think Johnson was in Kennedys inner circle? And Trump wouldn’t fire him a month before the election. He may want to, but.... It is not time for any VP to appear to be asserting control or discussing succession. And that has nothing to be with Trumps proclivities. No Pres would have their VP out front right now.
The people we should be hearing from are his drs and his chief of staff.
