[GK3]

Funny today I see Four Seasons and my mind drifts to hotels and landscaping.  :)

Moving to this thread.   One coach has 37 losses over 10+ seasons and gets a schedule loaded with easy opponents and loads of home games. But the big flaw?  That coach also had to vacate wins.   That's a no no for any comparison to a Stanford coach IMHO.

The other coach has 35 losses in 10+ seasons.  So that looks largely comparable.   

They both have been to big time bowls and there is ZERO doubt in my mind that Stanford teams that went to the BSC/NYG Bowls would have gone to the CFP if they had shiny gold helmets.   There are a lot of reasons for that but actually Shaw and Muir are minor players in that reality.

FWIW - I noted this before, but believe it more now - The results in 2020 just need to be dramatically discounted.   When your local health policies are a big factor in your season record it is best to just throw up an asterisk and get ready for 2021.  Enjoy the Saturday entertainment during the inevitable shutdown #2, continue to hope the players stay healthy, and wait for the 2021 season before making any decisions on staff retention.  That will apply for every sport. 

Unless a Stanford coach commits some major NCAA violations in the next 5 months, they likely will be retained into the 2021-2022 academic year for a number of reasons that revolve around COVID mitigation logistics and the very tough budget challenges COVID created.

Agreed - this year is an anomaly, very little represents a normal year.  As far as I am concerned I think trying to play under these conditions is pretty much a joke.  From week to week you have no real idea who might actually be available a week later. As far as I am concerned we should just fast forward to the weekend after the last game and move on.  

[GK3]

Funny today I see Four Seasons and my mind drifts to hotels and landscaping.  :)

Moving to this thread.   One coach has 37 losses over 10+ seasons and gets a schedule loaded with easy opponents and loads of home games. But the big flaw?  That coach also had to vacate wins.   That's a no no for any comparison to a Stanford coach IMHO.

The other coach has 35 losses in 10+ seasons.  So that looks largely comparable.   

They both have been to big time bowls and there is ZERO doubt in my mind that Stanford teams that went to the BSC/NYG Bowls would have gone to the CFP if they had shiny gold helmets.   There are a lot of reasons for that but actually Shaw and Muir are minor players in that reality.

FWIW - I noted this before, but believe it more now - The results in 2020 just need to be dramatically discounted.   When your local health policies are a big factor in your season record it is best to just throw up an asterisk and get ready for 2021.  Enjoy the Saturday entertainment during the inevitable shutdown #2, continue to hope the players stay healthy, and wait for the 2021 season before making any decisions on staff retention.  That will apply for every sport. 

Unless a Stanford coach commits some major NCAA violations in the next 5 months, they likely will be retained into the 2021-2022 academic year for a number of reasons that revolve around COVID mitigation logistics and the very tough budget challenges COVID created.

Agreed - this year is an anomaly, very little represents a normal year.  As far as I am concerned I think trying to play under these conditions is pretty much a joke.  From week to week you have no real idea who might actually be available a week later. As far as I am concerned we should just fast forward to the weekend after the last game and move on.