[winflop]

Really, the talent isn’t very talented. Plus the turtles are creating an identity that is passive.

On the field there has been a bit of a dropoff over the last four years. In the coaching staff it's been far more substantial.

There needs to be a major housecleaning on the defensive staff after this season. There are talent, development, and scheme/gameplanning/playcalling issues almost everywhere.

[winflop]

Really, the talent isn’t very talented. Plus the turtles are creating an identity that is passive.

On the field there has been a bit of a dropoff over the last four years. In the coaching staff it's been far more substantial.

There needs to be a major housecleaning on the defensive staff after this season. There are talent, development, and scheme/gameplanning/playcalling issues almost everywhere.