[Brickcity]

Considering that Harbaugh and Shaw were responsible for the longest stretch of consistent success in Stanford football in most of our lifetimes, there’s an awful lot of animus towards the two of them.

Neither is perfect.  But I don’t think either deserves the harsh words uttered in their direction.

BC

 
Stunningly naive. Decent, but naive. In the immortal words of Joe Biden, "C'mon man!" These are two guys making multiple-millions of dollars to coach a schoolboy game. The heat, unreasonable or not, comes with the territory and you can be sure they know it. Especially being the sons of college football coaches.

Stanford is off to a weak start after a losing season, after two consecutive poor years (it was in the Pac 12 Championship Game as recently 2017).

Some may say, after the greatest run ever from 2011-2015, give Coach Shaw a lot of leeway. Others may argue two or three downward seasons is too much given the high stakes and high compensation, and how quickly the game evolves and how much it constantly demands. I wouldn’t call either perspective “naive.” Maybe watch a movie with a friend and chill.

Gotta agree with Gailtate's take on this topic. First of all, no one is slamming Shaw personally. I think everyone agrees he's a good guy. But, calling him out on his failures as a head coach is absolutely fair game! I have to admit I'm almost learning to take some sort of perverse pleasure in slamming Shaw for his failings - frankly, it's more entertaining than watching the games!

Harbaugh may deserve some criticism for his failings as a personality, but it sounds like such criticisms are based on repeated behavior on his part. Of course, I'll always be grateful to him for what he did for the program. 

Back to Shaw: I still root for the guy to make the necessary changes to the program, but am very skeptical that he ever will. Time will tell. Bummer.

[Brickcity]

Considering that Harbaugh and Shaw were responsible for the longest stretch of consistent success in Stanford football in most of our lifetimes, there’s an awful lot of animus towards the two of them.

Neither is perfect.  But I don’t think either deserves the harsh words uttered in their direction.

BC

 
Stunningly naive. Decent, but naive. In the immortal words of Joe Biden, "C'mon man!" These are two guys making multiple-millions of dollars to coach a schoolboy game. The heat, unreasonable or not, comes with the territory and you can be sure they know it. Especially being the sons of college football coaches.

Stanford is off to a weak start after a losing season, after two consecutive poor years (it was in the Pac 12 Championship Game as recently 2017).

Some may say, after the greatest run ever from 2011-2015, give Coach Shaw a lot of leeway. Others may argue two or three downward seasons is too much given the high stakes and high compensation, and how quickly the game evolves and how much it constantly demands. I wouldn’t call either perspective “naive.” Maybe watch a movie with a friend and chill.

Gotta agree with Gailtate's take on this topic. First of all, no one is slamming Shaw personally. I think everyone agrees he's a good guy. But, calling him out on his failures as a head coach is absolutely fair game! I have to admit I'm almost learning to take some sort of perverse pleasure in slamming Shaw for his failings - frankly, it's more entertaining than watching the games!

Harbaugh may deserve some criticism for his failings as a personality, but it sounds like such criticisms are based on repeated behavior on his part. Of course, I'll always be grateful to him for what he did for the program. 

Back to Shaw: I still root for the guy to make the necessary changes to the program, but am very skeptical that he ever will. Time will tell. Bummer.