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Gilmore, "Shaw is the greatest coach in Stanford history." Maybe the most wins but he is on a much lower plane than Pop Warner and Walsh. Plus they were creative innovators. Warner invented the double wing and Walsh put together an offense with the best of Sid Gillman and Paul Brown's schemes. Shaw has invented nada.

[Phogge]

Gilmore, "Shaw is the greatest coach in Stanford history." Maybe the most wins but he is on a much lower plane than Pop Warner and Walsh. Plus they were creative innovators. Warner invented the double wing and Walsh put together an offense with the best of Sid Gillman and Paul Brown's schemes. Shaw has invented nada.