[Goose]

Who the hell in their right mind jumps through all the hoops for Stanford admission, gets admitted, and then doesn't take it when offered? Being a "regular" student with Stanford on the resume provides a leg up on everyone else, but athletes like Football players get even more special treatment in terms of getting doors opened, etc.

If the Football program is so odious that after being admitted, you won't attend, why in the hell are you wasting your time with an application? We used to just see the "I want people to think I'm smart" card played by recruits who when picking schools, had a Stanford hat on the table when it wasn't even an option for them.  Now kids are proving they can get into Stanford without actually attending? Is the idea to be able to flash a Stanford admissions acceptance letter to NFL scouts so they don't have to take the Wonderlic?  This behavior doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Lots of people take all those AP classes and do all that work because they want to, not because it will get them into Stanford. Smart people will evaluate all their options, so keeping Stanford on the table makes sense. However, when push comes to shove it may be easier to go somewhere else to play football. It may also be that your parents are alums of school X and want to see you play.  Unfortunately, I think it may show that Shaw et al are doing a better job of finding guys who can get into Stanford but a worse job of figuring out who wants to go to Stanford. On this board, Shaw et al have been criticized for only recruiting people who sought them out. Probably none of those guys will not sign if offered. Now we are reaching out further, and some of those guys just don't want to be here. For them, their 40 year decision is something other than what is offered at Stanford. Just how it is.

[Goose]

Who the hell in their right mind jumps through all the hoops for Stanford admission, gets admitted, and then doesn't take it when offered? Being a "regular" student with Stanford on the resume provides a leg up on everyone else, but athletes like Football players get even more special treatment in terms of getting doors opened, etc.

If the Football program is so odious that after being admitted, you won't attend, why in the hell are you wasting your time with an application? We used to just see the "I want people to think I'm smart" card played by recruits who when picking schools, had a Stanford hat on the table when it wasn't even an option for them.  Now kids are proving they can get into Stanford without actually attending? Is the idea to be able to flash a Stanford admissions acceptance letter to NFL scouts so they don't have to take the Wonderlic?  This behavior doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Lots of people take all those AP classes and do all that work because they want to, not because it will get them into Stanford. Smart people will evaluate all their options, so keeping Stanford on the table makes sense. However, when push comes to shove it may be easier to go somewhere else to play football. It may also be that your parents are alums of school X and want to see you play.  Unfortunately, I think it may show that Shaw et al are doing a better job of finding guys who can get into Stanford but a worse job of figuring out who wants to go to Stanford. On this board, Shaw et al have been criticized for only recruiting people who sought them out. Probably none of those guys will not sign if offered. Now we are reaching out further, and some of those guys just don't want to be here. For them, their 40 year decision is something other than what is offered at Stanford. Just how it is.