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What's funnier (sarcasm) is how Sarrell went from the top recruit in the nation to becoming undrafted.  I knew we were bad at developing QBs outside of luck but now OL as well it seems.  Walker amazingly got drafted with only 2 seasons.  Probably smart to have not played.

So if a player fails to live up to his high school ranking, we failed to develop him.  I suppose that when a player does live up to or exceeds his ranking it is just because of his hidden, innate talent but absolutely not from the coaching.  I recall hearing that a lot about Luck.  But Hogan developed more than any other qb I've ever seen.  Costello and Mills were both also better at the end than when they started.  I don't think Shaw and his staff are perfect but they don't deserve to be viewed from a perspective that always amounts to "Heads I win, Tails you lose."  

Cheers,
Pete F.

Costello clearly regressed.  Great that you pointed out Hogan (who looked absolutely abysmal his junior year but then came back senior year).  What about Nunes, Jack West, Ryan Burns? Absolutely great development indeed.  Mills did better but again, no doubt he is disappointed at his draft position relative to his high school ranking. The best OL developed (based on star rating) was likely DeCastro and that was not under Shaw.

Besides the "40 year decision", what other benefit is there to coming here if you are a top QB/OL 5 star recruit that has a legitimate 1st round shot at the NFL? You think Jameis Winston would have been top pick if he had gone here?

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What's funnier (sarcasm) is how Sarrell went from the top recruit in the nation to becoming undrafted.  I knew we were bad at developing QBs outside of luck but now OL as well it seems.  Walker amazingly got drafted with only 2 seasons.  Probably smart to have not played.

So if a player fails to live up to his high school ranking, we failed to develop him.  I suppose that when a player does live up to or exceeds his ranking it is just because of his hidden, innate talent but absolutely not from the coaching.  I recall hearing that a lot about Luck.  But Hogan developed more than any other qb I've ever seen.  Costello and Mills were both also better at the end than when they started.  I don't think Shaw and his staff are perfect but they don't deserve to be viewed from a perspective that always amounts to "Heads I win, Tails you lose."  

Cheers,
Pete F.

Costello clearly regressed.  Great that you pointed out Hogan (who looked absolutely abysmal his junior year but then came back senior year).  What about Nunes, Jack West, Ryan Burns? Absolutely great development indeed.  Mills did better but again, no doubt he is disappointed at his draft position relative to his high school ranking. The best OL developed (based on star rating) was likely DeCastro and that was not under Shaw.

Besides the "40 year decision", what other benefit is there to coming here if you are a top QB/OL 5 star recruit that has a legitimate 1st round shot at the NFL? You think Jameis Winston would have been top pick if he had gone here?