[lex24]

I agree. And what conference is likely to get hit? Duh.

OF, Lex is probably going to call for our posts to be deleted. LOL.

You nailed it.  But I deleted it.  As it pertains to Stanford baseball.

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[quote="chrisk" pid='319312' dateline='1624673280']

Stanford is requiring all students to be vaccinated in the fall.  Over 400 colleges have announced that policy.

Frankly, I can't imagine why any large organization wouldn't require all employees/students to be  vaccinated. No reason to put up with the additional testing/absenteeism due to sickness/quarantine. It is avoidable, so take the simple step to avoid it.

Because they can’t if employees are coming into an office.  Legal issues. Won’t discuss here. But that is the reason.

I disagree with your conclusion on legal issues. I think employers can (and will) require employees to be vaccinated.  And that it will be upheld (already one federal court on that side of the ledger - though I'm sure many more challenges will come).

well my employer in the Valley is requiring your to attest, but you do not have to show documentation, that you have been vaccinated to be allowed back into company offices (not just locally but around the world).  If you do not you can work remotely.  I would imagine that if for some reason you lied about being vaccinated and the company found out they could fire you for that.  I would guess that if you had a job where you had to go to other company premises (mostly sales or on-site customer support) that some of those companies will require proof of vaccination to be allowed in as a guest.
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On the employer mandate issue, teejers is correct. At-will employment seems to apply. Employers can hire whoever they want - as long as they aren't choosing based on gender, age, appearance, sex orientation, religious affiliation - and they can let people go who don't get vaccinated too. How would it make any sense to prevent an employer from protecting its employees and business by forcing them to employ unvaccinated people that put them at risk? 

The only reason the sports leagues aren't mandating vaccinations is because of CBA issues. Higher education has same justification to require vaccinations as employers do.

But it seems the odds are high the sports leagues will pay a price for not working out some kind of agreement with unions to require vaccinations and/or penalize players who don't get vaccinated.

Deleted. Promised myself I wasn’t going to debate this on a sports board….I will say the issue is way more complex than OF suggests. Plus there is a practical element. Many employers are having difficulty getting their people to come back to work. I don’t think they’re gonna wanna make it that much more difficult. In any event not the place to debate this. I do invite people to read Cal OSHA’s regs on this.

But I will say this, as it’s sports related: OF do you believe the MLB players Union would agree that the players must be vaccinated or they can’t play? I suspect that’s highly unlikely.

[lex24]

I agree. And what conference is likely to get hit? Duh.

OF, Lex is probably going to call for our posts to be deleted. LOL.

You nailed it.  But I deleted it.  As it pertains to Stanford baseball.

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[quote="chrisk" pid='319312' dateline='1624673280']

Stanford is requiring all students to be vaccinated in the fall.  Over 400 colleges have announced that policy.

Frankly, I can't imagine why any large organization wouldn't require all employees/students to be  vaccinated. No reason to put up with the additional testing/absenteeism due to sickness/quarantine. It is avoidable, so take the simple step to avoid it.

Because they can’t if employees are coming into an office.  Legal issues. Won’t discuss here. But that is the reason.

I disagree with your conclusion on legal issues. I think employers can (and will) require employees to be vaccinated.  And that it will be upheld (already one federal court on that side of the ledger - though I'm sure many more challenges will come).

well my employer in the Valley is requiring your to attest, but you do not have to show documentation, that you have been vaccinated to be allowed back into company offices (not just locally but around the world).  If you do not you can work remotely.  I would imagine that if for some reason you lied about being vaccinated and the company found out they could fire you for that.  I would guess that if you had a job where you had to go to other company premises (mostly sales or on-site customer support) that some of those companies will require proof of vaccination to be allowed in as a guest.
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On the employer mandate issue, teejers is correct. At-will employment seems to apply. Employers can hire whoever they want - as long as they aren't choosing based on gender, age, appearance, sex orientation, religious affiliation - and they can let people go who don't get vaccinated too. How would it make any sense to prevent an employer from protecting its employees and business by forcing them to employ unvaccinated people that put them at risk? 

The only reason the sports leagues aren't mandating vaccinations is because of CBA issues. Higher education has same justification to require vaccinations as employers do.

But it seems the odds are high the sports leagues will pay a price for not working out some kind of agreement with unions to require vaccinations and/or penalize players who don't get vaccinated.

Deleted. Promised myself I wasn’t going to debate this on a sports board….I will say the issue is way more complex than OF suggests. Plus there is a practical element. Many employers are having difficulty getting their people to come back to work. I don’t think they’re gonna wanna make it that much more difficult. In any event not the place to debate this. I do invite people to read Cal OSHA’s regs on this.

But I will say this, as it’s sports related: OF do you believe the MLB players Union would agree that the players must be vaccinated or they can’t play? I suspect that’s highly unlikely.