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We have one. His name is Austin Jones.
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I have a hard time seeing him as the MVP in a Pac12 championship game.
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Oh, got it. The team overall won't be as good (for sure agree), which means this specific player isn't as good (disagree).
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My gut recollection of Gaffney at Stanford was workhorse.  Akin to Toby, without the number of dazzling plays (but maybe my memory is shot).

2 specific plays stand out with Gaff, one good, one bad:

The good:  Gaffney's 53 yard (?) TD run at ASU in P12 championship game.  Talk about a tone-setter!

The bad:  Fourth down and 2-3; Rose Bowl against MSU; shotgun draw to Gaffney (which hadn't worked all game) smothered in the backfield.  And that play call was made by Stanford's brain trust AFTER a timeout.  Good god that was hideous (and not Gaffney's fault).

[teejers1]

We have one. His name is Austin Jones.
[/quote]

I have a hard time seeing him as the MVP in a Pac12 championship game.
[/quote]

Oh, got it. The team overall won't be as good (for sure agree), which means this specific player isn't as good (disagree).
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My gut recollection of Gaffney at Stanford was workhorse.  Akin to Toby, without the number of dazzling plays (but maybe my memory is shot).

2 specific plays stand out with Gaff, one good, one bad:

The good:  Gaffney's 53 yard (?) TD run at ASU in P12 championship game.  Talk about a tone-setter!

The bad:  Fourth down and 2-3; Rose Bowl against MSU; shotgun draw to Gaffney (which hadn't worked all game) smothered in the backfield.  And that play call was made by Stanford's brain trust AFTER a timeout.  Good god that was hideous (and not Gaffney's fault).