[d4cohn]

Brian Kelly has run circles around David Shaw in building Notre Dame into a consistent program, by acting with the urgency needed to win in the College Football marketplace, David Shaw, OTOH, has epitomized complacency, resting on laurels, and prioritizing his own comfort over continuous improvement.

A consistent program maybe, but they have literally not won a big NY6 bowl game under Brian Kelly (two playoff losses, a NC loss and a Fiesta Bowl loss). They have gotten crushed in the playoffs twice (and in the Natty Championship that they reached because of the controversial ending of our game in South Bend), and since they are independents, no conference championships to compete for except getting crushed by Clemson last year. 

I also don't think Notre Dame is the bar either. Like I said, there are a handful of programs (Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Alabama) that are consistent winners. And does our school profile match any of those schools? Probably not.

[d4cohn]

Brian Kelly has run circles around David Shaw in building Notre Dame into a consistent program, by acting with the urgency needed to win in the College Football marketplace, David Shaw, OTOH, has epitomized complacency, resting on laurels, and prioritizing his own comfort over continuous improvement.

A consistent program maybe, but they have literally not won a big NY6 bowl game under Brian Kelly (two playoff losses, a NC loss and a Fiesta Bowl loss). They have gotten crushed in the playoffs twice (and in the Natty Championship that they reached because of the controversial ending of our game in South Bend), and since they are independents, no conference championships to compete for except getting crushed by Clemson last year. 

I also don't think Notre Dame is the bar either. Like I said, there are a handful of programs (Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Alabama) that are consistent winners. And does our school profile match any of those schools? Probably not.