[d4cohn]

Other than Big Game, how many coaches have been fired within 2 days of losing to Stanford?

Which in itself is disrespectful of Stanford, isn't it?

We still are not held in very high regard in the CF World.

Well, what is the denominator of coaches fired mid-season (especially outside of USC)?

Moreover, isn't one of the reasons you fire a coach is that they lose to a team perceived as inferior?  Helton would likely not have been fired had he lost a game to Oregon.  It was precisely because we were not held in very high regard in the CF world (more specifically in the USC wolrd) that it led to Helton being fired.  Again, I doubt that Helton is fired if we had been a nationally ranked team fresh off a drubbing of KSU.

BC

An alternative explanation is that Stanford has become a football rival to SC in the last 10 years or so (since 2009 What's Your Deal game) in a way UCLA or Cal isn't (we have consistently been better than UCLA during that time and beaten them all but 1 year during our one losing season in the last decade+). And when you get so thoroughly embarrassed and humiliated by said California rival, and the alums publicly abandon an already unpopular coach with the fanbase, the AD feels the need to make a change, particularly ～1-2 months ahead of the most important early window in recruiting.

I actually think the admin at SC respects Shaw and how competitive we have been through most of his tenure (as well as Jim's before).

[d4cohn]

Other than Big Game, how many coaches have been fired within 2 days of losing to Stanford?

Which in itself is disrespectful of Stanford, isn't it?

We still are not held in very high regard in the CF World.

Well, what is the denominator of coaches fired mid-season (especially outside of USC)?

Moreover, isn't one of the reasons you fire a coach is that they lose to a team perceived as inferior?  Helton would likely not have been fired had he lost a game to Oregon.  It was precisely because we were not held in very high regard in the CF world (more specifically in the USC wolrd) that it led to Helton being fired.  Again, I doubt that Helton is fired if we had been a nationally ranked team fresh off a drubbing of KSU.

BC

An alternative explanation is that Stanford has become a football rival to SC in the last 10 years or so (since 2009 What's Your Deal game) in a way UCLA or Cal isn't (we have consistently been better than UCLA during that time and beaten them all but 1 year during our one losing season in the last decade+). And when you get so thoroughly embarrassed and humiliated by said California rival, and the alums publicly abandon an already unpopular coach with the fanbase, the AD feels the need to make a change, particularly ～1-2 months ahead of the most important early window in recruiting.

I actually think the admin at SC respects Shaw and how competitive we have been through most of his tenure (as well as Jim's before).