[teejers1]

HARBAUGH built the program. Shaw rode his coattails.

Harbaugh went to 1 BCS/NY6 Bowl (and it wasn't a Rose Bowl and he never won the conference). Shaw has been to 4.

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I have two problems with this statement. First, Harbaugh was only head coach of Stanford for 4 years.  Second, he inherited a totally broken program and had to rebuild it from the bottom up.  It is therefore ridiculous to compare Harbaugh's accomplishments at Stanford with those of Shaw, who inherited a top ten program and has had 11 seasons at the helm.  Shaw was masterful in taking over Harbaugh's program and producing some marvelous results in the years immediately following.  That is wholly to his credit.  But he also wholly owns the current decline, which is the result of his leadership, his coaches and his players.  

Also, it makes no sense to compare Harbaugh's current track record at Michigan to anything Shaw has done at Stanford.  Michigan plays in a different conference, has a different schedule and a different history.  No comparison.  I wonder how many times Stanford would have beaten Ohio State in the last 7 years.  Once maybe, in 2015.  

And for what it's worth, I would prefer to be 7-1 after a hard-fought disappointing loss to another top ten program than 3-5 after a miserable and disappointing game vs. another Pac-12 bottom-feeder.  Yes, the natives in Ann Arbor may be calling for Harbaugh's head, but there are worse places to be than 7-1.  Cardinal fans know that.

It's not just the record.  The Michigan-MSU game was an incredibly compelling game . . . one of the best college football games I've seen in a long time.  Tight game; great plays made on both sides; great atmosphere, etc.  Those were 2 teams making plays against pretty good (understatement) defenses.  Stanford was at that level not that long ago.

And now where are things?  (And this coming Friday will quite possibly be worse).

[teejers1]

HARBAUGH built the program. Shaw rode his coattails.

Harbaugh went to 1 BCS/NY6 Bowl (and it wasn't a Rose Bowl and he never won the conference). Shaw has been to 4.

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I have two problems with this statement. First, Harbaugh was only head coach of Stanford for 4 years.  Second, he inherited a totally broken program and had to rebuild it from the bottom up.  It is therefore ridiculous to compare Harbaugh's accomplishments at Stanford with those of Shaw, who inherited a top ten program and has had 11 seasons at the helm.  Shaw was masterful in taking over Harbaugh's program and producing some marvelous results in the years immediately following.  That is wholly to his credit.  But he also wholly owns the current decline, which is the result of his leadership, his coaches and his players.  

Also, it makes no sense to compare Harbaugh's current track record at Michigan to anything Shaw has done at Stanford.  Michigan plays in a different conference, has a different schedule and a different history.  No comparison.  I wonder how many times Stanford would have beaten Ohio State in the last 7 years.  Once maybe, in 2015.  

And for what it's worth, I would prefer to be 7-1 after a hard-fought disappointing loss to another top ten program than 3-5 after a miserable and disappointing game vs. another Pac-12 bottom-feeder.  Yes, the natives in Ann Arbor may be calling for Harbaugh's head, but there are worse places to be than 7-1.  Cardinal fans know that.

It's not just the record.  The Michigan-MSU game was an incredibly compelling game . . . one of the best college football games I've seen in a long time.  Tight game; great plays made on both sides; great atmosphere, etc.  Those were 2 teams making plays against pretty good (understatement) defenses.  Stanford was at that level not that long ago.

And now where are things?  (And this coming Friday will quite possibly be worse).