11-07-2021, 06:59 PM
(11-07-2021, 05:12 PM)DC 86 Wrote:I am going to argue with that. The stats are very misleading. I watched those offenses in person, and I can tell you it was John Elway doing the impossible. The defense was pretty bad, so they spent a lot of time behind. They were playing catch-up football and had an all world-talent. The other team knew the ground game wouldn't beat them. They just had to keep Elway from beating them. That often was difficult, but it was usually possible, as the 6-5, 4-7, and 5-6 record demonstrates.(11-07-2021, 02:49 PM)Goose Wrote:(11-07-2021, 02:12 PM)teejers1 Wrote: Was Stanford a "power running" team during the Elway years? in 1999-200? No. But they were good, balanced offenses.Which Elway, Jack or John? If you meant John, no, they weren't good balanced offenses. They were neither good nor balanced.
The John Elway offenses were neither good nor balanced?
1980: 28.4 points per game (11th our of 138 D-1 teams). 266 pass yards/game, 167 rush yards/game.
1981: 28.5 points per game (16th out of 137 D-1 teams). 279 pass yards/game, 165 rush yards/game.
1982: 29.8 points per game (13th out of 113 D-1 teams). 301 pass yards/game, 113 rush yards/game.
Very good offenses all three seasons that Elway started. Balance offenses two of those seasons.
Darrin Nelson got 161 rushing attempts in 1980, a year I think you are arguing was "balanced". John Elway got 100 rushing attempts (including sacks). That year, 72% of Stanford's offensive plays were either an Elway rush or an Elway pass. Sorry, IMHO that is not balanced. That was the John Elway show with a cameo by Darrin Nelson. In 1981 the balance was good, with only 50% of the plays being an Elway run or pass. It did however produce the worst record. In 1982, Elway runs or passes were 63% of the attempts. Dotterer and White had the majority of the rushing attempts that year, a total of 201. Elway alone had 464 total attempts. For that reason, I would say the team relied pretty much totally on Elway.
Elway's sacks generally don't show up in the rushing yards. He was net positive in 1980, close to even in 1981, and only in 1982 was he significantly net negative. That makes things look much more balanced than they actually were. Counting the plays in addition to the yards paints a different picture.
