[CardinalSagehen]

Just mentioning failures at Stanford.
Beware of what you wish for.  It doesn’t always work out

If the current guy either can't see the problems AND implement solutions or (just as bad) can see them and WON'T implement, then I'd rather someone else at least tries even if the results are worse. Maintaining status quo after the last four seasons is not OK

I know times are tough, but we were 9-4 in 2018.  We were also 4-2 in 2020, despite having to play on the road endlessly (and one wonders where we would have been had Mills not been a weird COVID testing situation).  We were dreadful in 2019 and again this year, so maybe it feels like it has been forever since we had a winning season.

BC

I am with you on this, mostly.  But consider also that nobody here expects us to have a winning record next season, due mostly to lack of proven ability and depth on the defensive line / front 7. That seems to be unfixable by next year, barring major surprises from some young and inexperienced players.  

So by this time next year, we are probably talking about 3 out of 4 seasons where performance is well below par.  

That’s why this poll was difficult for me.  I want to give Shaw time to fix it himself (hire new assistants, make changes, etc.), but giving him one year seems pointless and giving him two years seems too long.

[CardinalSagehen]

Just mentioning failures at Stanford.
Beware of what you wish for.  It doesn’t always work out

If the current guy either can't see the problems AND implement solutions or (just as bad) can see them and WON'T implement, then I'd rather someone else at least tries even if the results are worse. Maintaining status quo after the last four seasons is not OK

I know times are tough, but we were 9-4 in 2018.  We were also 4-2 in 2020, despite having to play on the road endlessly (and one wonders where we would have been had Mills not been a weird COVID testing situation).  We were dreadful in 2019 and again this year, so maybe it feels like it has been forever since we had a winning season.

BC

I am with you on this, mostly.  But consider also that nobody here expects us to have a winning record next season, due mostly to lack of proven ability and depth on the defensive line / front 7. That seems to be unfixable by next year, barring major surprises from some young and inexperienced players.  

So by this time next year, we are probably talking about 3 out of 4 seasons where performance is well below par.  

That’s why this poll was difficult for me.  I want to give Shaw time to fix it himself (hire new assistants, make changes, etc.), but giving him one year seems pointless and giving him two years seems too long.