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As to administration antipathy towards him it's hard to imagine that being an issue as long as he kept winning 10-11 games each year.

Really? Trust me, even at Stanford there is significant (though not overwhelming) antipathy to sports in general and to football in particular. Lots of people just don't believe athletics belongs at a University. Add to that the cost of sports and the (perceived at least) inordinate power of the Athletic Department its is a big issue to many people. It is in the mix at many schools, Kal being an example where it has significant effect. Probably it is a very, very small minority at LSU. Notre Dame has always existed in tension between what the administration wants to be true and what it takes to win. To what degree that bothered Kelly is anybody's guess, but it for sure exists.

I get your point in the abstract, but don't you think Kelly has won an awful lot at ND?  All that's missing from his resume is a Natty, but only 1 of those go out/year.  I think his level of winning was easily "sufficient" for the ND Faithful.  So I'm not sure where the tension would be in the real here and now between Kelly and ND.  Have you heard that Kelly asked that a player or 2 or 3 be admitted and was told "no" by the ND higher-ups?  

Could be true, I suppose . . .

[teejers1]

As to administration antipathy towards him it's hard to imagine that being an issue as long as he kept winning 10-11 games each year.

Really? Trust me, even at Stanford there is significant (though not overwhelming) antipathy to sports in general and to football in particular. Lots of people just don't believe athletics belongs at a University. Add to that the cost of sports and the (perceived at least) inordinate power of the Athletic Department its is a big issue to many people. It is in the mix at many schools, Kal being an example where it has significant effect. Probably it is a very, very small minority at LSU. Notre Dame has always existed in tension between what the administration wants to be true and what it takes to win. To what degree that bothered Kelly is anybody's guess, but it for sure exists.

I get your point in the abstract, but don't you think Kelly has won an awful lot at ND?  All that's missing from his resume is a Natty, but only 1 of those go out/year.  I think his level of winning was easily "sufficient" for the ND Faithful.  So I'm not sure where the tension would be in the real here and now between Kelly and ND.  Have you heard that Kelly asked that a player or 2 or 3 be admitted and was told "no" by the ND higher-ups?  

Could be true, I suppose . . .