02-16-2022, 11:00 AM
(02-16-2022, 05:59 AM)spike5882 Wrote:(02-15-2022, 10:03 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(02-15-2022, 09:02 PM)spike5882 Wrote: We have yet to see a trans athlete change gender with the purpose to create an advantage.
Perhaps not. However, Lia is certainly capitalizing on that advantage, isn't she. Six foot five, broad shoulders, 15+ years training and competing as a guy. . . .
When does it become not okay? When a trans girl maims or kills a cisgender girl in a contact sport?
Good lord. You make it sound like hordes of football players are running to their doctors to transition. A pretty far fetched perspective you have. In your world, pretty soon all these males will be infiltrating all of women sports, maiming and killing other girls along the way, so they can more easily win and finally get paid since they weren’t good enough as a male. But wait, there’s no money in women’s sports. Hmm. So what actually would be their motivation…a ribbon, a medal, a trophy? Genuine question.
And how exactly is she capitalizing on transitioning? I don’t see her taking advantage of anything since she has transitioned; she has just swam and been pretty quiet about it. Has she gotten tons of endorsements or NIL money? Another genuine question. Just how is she capitalizing?
Breaking swimming records - many would argue unfairly - isn't "capitalizing?"
Making a team (at someone else's expense) isn't capitalizing?
Look, I get it. Transitioning is not easy, and there are lots of trials and tribulations for those who do it. So why "penalize" these folks when they are already going through so much by taking something away from them that is obviously so important them (important enough to endure commentary like this - and far more severe, I'm sure)?
But like everything in life, policymaking is all about a balancing of interests. And fairness. And the needs of the many versus the needs of the few . . . or the one. There is no hard and fast rule or recipe that spits out the optimal policy, as each issue has its own set of circumstances, interests, sense of fairness, numbers affected, etc..
But here, the fairness coefficient and the numbers of benefitted versus adversely affected are just so out of whack that the correct policy seems pretty evident (at least from here). And again, at least from the view of a father of a cis daughter who has worked hard to compete in her sport.
