[spike5882]

There's no need for disguise in this day and age. Fewer and fewer women wear skirts, more's the pity. (God, do I miss the miniskirt.) Eliminate the social inhibitors, and no one's going to bother.

But this misses the larger point. If even a small minority of women are bothered by the possibility - and my sense is that it's a much larger number than a small minority, don't their concerns matter? Don't they have the right to be safe from assault, but even worry about the possibility?  When  did that cease to matter?

(And no, I don't think men's restrooms are dangerous for transgenders. I'm aware of no case in which a sexual assault against a transgender occurred in such a place. Correct me if you find one.)

Tons of reports and studies re: sexual assault of transgendered in bathrooms.  So, not really an opinion -- it happens pretty frequently, unfortunately. 

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-i...l-assault/

And yes, those women with concern have the right to feel concerned.  They have the right to feel however they want (as we all do.) And I wouldn't tell them to feel otherwise -- that is their prerogative. 

Laws though are supposed to remove the feelings and be based on facts.  There hasn't been a single incident reported of a transgendered person assaulting a woman in a bathroom.  Nor has any city which allows transgendered people into either bathroom (or require gender neutral bathrooms) produced any shred of evidence that it leads to predators dressing up women to sexually assault women in the bathroom.  Literally, not one.  On the flip side, there's plenty of evidence that transgendered women using a male restroom leads to sexual assault pretty often. So, sure, feel concerned with no factual basis; you are allowed to, and I have no desire to try to tell you that you are right or wrong for it.  But when it comes to laws, I can sit and cite sources all day long that very heavily favor one side from a factual perspective; and that is what laws should be based on, not feelings.

[spike5882]

There's no need for disguise in this day and age. Fewer and fewer women wear skirts, more's the pity. (God, do I miss the miniskirt.) Eliminate the social inhibitors, and no one's going to bother.

But this misses the larger point. If even a small minority of women are bothered by the possibility - and my sense is that it's a much larger number than a small minority, don't their concerns matter? Don't they have the right to be safe from assault, but even worry about the possibility?  When  did that cease to matter?

(And no, I don't think men's restrooms are dangerous for transgenders. I'm aware of no case in which a sexual assault against a transgender occurred in such a place. Correct me if you find one.)

Tons of reports and studies re: sexual assault of transgendered in bathrooms.  So, not really an opinion -- it happens pretty frequently, unfortunately. 

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-i...l-assault/

And yes, those women with concern have the right to feel concerned.  They have the right to feel however they want (as we all do.) And I wouldn't tell them to feel otherwise -- that is their prerogative. 

Laws though are supposed to remove the feelings and be based on facts.  There hasn't been a single incident reported of a transgendered person assaulting a woman in a bathroom.  Nor has any city which allows transgendered people into either bathroom (or require gender neutral bathrooms) produced any shred of evidence that it leads to predators dressing up women to sexually assault women in the bathroom.  Literally, not one.  On the flip side, there's plenty of evidence that transgendered women using a male restroom leads to sexual assault pretty often. So, sure, feel concerned with no factual basis; you are allowed to, and I have no desire to try to tell you that you are right or wrong for it.  But when it comes to laws, I can sit and cite sources all day long that very heavily favor one side from a factual perspective; and that is what laws should be based on, not feelings.