[Farm93]

Good graces: consistent tourney appearances.  That's it.  Everything follows from that (and a lot of things build up to that).

I thought that landing these recruiting whales would have led to tourney appearances...but I guess not.  Recruiting wins give hope; tourney appearances give confidence.

For me Haase's recruiting wins have sealed his fate.    Before you could argue he just needed a bit more time to learn how to find the talent capable of getting into Stanford.    However over the last few years he has landed talent that probably is about the best a Stanford basketball coach can expect and the team is still stumbling down the stretch year after year. 

The team struggles at the end of games and at the end of the season.   He is getting out coached.   He is a below .500 coach in conference over 6 years, and the Pac-12 has not exactly been a powerhouse conference over that span.

As others have pointed out Shaw has been Pac-12 COY multiple times, won the Pac-12 North 4 times, and went to the Rose Bowl 3 times.   There are not many football coaches in the USA that have done more over the last 12 years.    Yes, he is getting a lot of money, but back when he won those 2 Rose Bowls there were a lot of articles about how Shaw's ability to end the 4 decade drought was generating a surge in donations that probably exceeded hundreds of millions of dollars.    So while Stanford may be paying a lot for past performance, Stanford at least got past performance.

With Haase it has been 6 years pretty much living in the middle of a weak conference. with an awful tendency to fade at the end of each season.   There are a lot of coaches that have done more than Haase over these last six years, and I suspect many of them were fired for relatively better on court results.

That noted, he is not getting fired this year given the continuing on campus challenges with COVID protocols and his Jedi mind tricks.

[Farm93]

Good graces: consistent tourney appearances.  That's it.  Everything follows from that (and a lot of things build up to that).

I thought that landing these recruiting whales would have led to tourney appearances...but I guess not.  Recruiting wins give hope; tourney appearances give confidence.

For me Haase's recruiting wins have sealed his fate.    Before you could argue he just needed a bit more time to learn how to find the talent capable of getting into Stanford.    However over the last few years he has landed talent that probably is about the best a Stanford basketball coach can expect and the team is still stumbling down the stretch year after year. 

The team struggles at the end of games and at the end of the season.   He is getting out coached.   He is a below .500 coach in conference over 6 years, and the Pac-12 has not exactly been a powerhouse conference over that span.

As others have pointed out Shaw has been Pac-12 COY multiple times, won the Pac-12 North 4 times, and went to the Rose Bowl 3 times.   There are not many football coaches in the USA that have done more over the last 12 years.    Yes, he is getting a lot of money, but back when he won those 2 Rose Bowls there were a lot of articles about how Shaw's ability to end the 4 decade drought was generating a surge in donations that probably exceeded hundreds of millions of dollars.    So while Stanford may be paying a lot for past performance, Stanford at least got past performance.

With Haase it has been 6 years pretty much living in the middle of a weak conference. with an awful tendency to fade at the end of each season.   There are a lot of coaches that have done more than Haase over these last six years, and I suspect many of them were fired for relatively better on court results.

That noted, he is not getting fired this year given the continuing on campus challenges with COVID protocols and his Jedi mind tricks.