[Mick]

Course is playing brutally hard. Average score from the early finishers is 78, 8 over par.

3rd hole has been especially tough. 88 players so far, only 23 pars and a single birdie. A 217 yard hole that is playing like a par 4.

I've played that hole many, many times.  Straight uphill, bunkers on right and left, tough chip if you're off the green, depends on hole placement.

What I don't understand is why 16 is playing so mild.  I hated that hole.  Blind drive, have to hit 2nd shot over canyon to three tiered green that was constructed before Stimpmeter was even a word.  I remember being on the right of the green, hole was below me 15 feet to the left.  I was playing with my dad who said "your only chance to keep it on the green is to hit it here" and he motioned to a point eight feet from the hole.  I tried to hole it, and it went off the green.  Of course.  Today, it was the fourth easiest hole at 4.18 for the 396 yard par 4.

10 is also playing tough, 440 yards, tee shot over a canyon, tight green.  Also tough is #5, a 3 par.  Not a particularly difficult tee shot, the average is 3.63, third toughest hole.  I saw the #1 golfer on our high school team, who played at Arizona State and was a scratch golfer in high school, miss a 31 inch putt three times in a row, from the exact same spot.  Very tricky green.

[Mick]

Course is playing brutally hard. Average score from the early finishers is 78, 8 over par.

3rd hole has been especially tough. 88 players so far, only 23 pars and a single birdie. A 217 yard hole that is playing like a par 4.

I've played that hole many, many times.  Straight uphill, bunkers on right and left, tough chip if you're off the green, depends on hole placement.

What I don't understand is why 16 is playing so mild.  I hated that hole.  Blind drive, have to hit 2nd shot over canyon to three tiered green that was constructed before Stimpmeter was even a word.  I remember being on the right of the green, hole was below me 15 feet to the left.  I was playing with my dad who said "your only chance to keep it on the green is to hit it here" and he motioned to a point eight feet from the hole.  I tried to hole it, and it went off the green.  Of course.  Today, it was the fourth easiest hole at 4.18 for the 396 yard par 4.

10 is also playing tough, 440 yards, tee shot over a canyon, tight green.  Also tough is #5, a 3 par.  Not a particularly difficult tee shot, the average is 3.63, third toughest hole.  I saw the #1 golfer on our high school team, who played at Arizona State and was a scratch golfer in high school, miss a 31 inch putt three times in a row, from the exact same spot.  Very tricky green.