[JohnR34231]

I agree with Matt. I find it hard to see a situation where Muir is going to fire Shaw.  He lacks the political capital to do it, and things get so bad that he has no choice, his own job will be on the chopping block. Muir’s successor might.

BC

I would be curious to know what constitutes "so bad he has no choice". 3-9, 4-8 type seasons in 2022 and 2023? Or would that even do it?

HA! There is a depressingly high number of people at Stanford, some on this board, who would try to sell 4-8 this year as evidence of Shaw's Return To Glory, and 3-9 as But We Came So Close.

Just wondering what kind of season would be necessary for you to consider it a return to respectibility, if not glory. Or at least a step in the right direction.

[JohnR34231]

I agree with Matt. I find it hard to see a situation where Muir is going to fire Shaw.  He lacks the political capital to do it, and things get so bad that he has no choice, his own job will be on the chopping block. Muir’s successor might.

BC

I would be curious to know what constitutes "so bad he has no choice". 3-9, 4-8 type seasons in 2022 and 2023? Or would that even do it?

HA! There is a depressingly high number of people at Stanford, some on this board, who would try to sell 4-8 this year as evidence of Shaw's Return To Glory, and 3-9 as But We Came So Close.

Just wondering what kind of season would be necessary for you to consider it a return to respectibility, if not glory. Or at least a step in the right direction.