[murky]

I appreciate the discussion after my post asking which former coaches would be preferable - going forward.

I'm not surprised to see some prefer Green.  The way Willingham was vilified, I am a little surprised that some prefer him, but maybe its the detachment of time and distance that allow a more favorable view in hindsight.

But it is stunning to suggest Teevens, especially if based on results.

In any case, its interesting to see the depths of disapproval and despair with Shaw.

My attachment to Stanford sports grew in a time that involved regular hope against hope, sometimes rewarded and then the more sweet for it.   I was a student from 90-95 and our record over that period was just over 500.  

The nadir for the program was Walt's last season, 1-11 after years of nothing but futility.

In my time we've had 2 coaches who've had more winning seasons than losing, and they both got heaps of crap from the fan boards.

Shaw, even while delivering winning seasons.

edit: As far as I'm concerned, and not just in hindsight, I give a near complete pass for what occurred during the Covid affected seasons. It's just an entirely different set of luck and skills that determines outcomes in such circumstances.

[murky]

I appreciate the discussion after my post asking which former coaches would be preferable - going forward.

I'm not surprised to see some prefer Green.  The way Willingham was vilified, I am a little surprised that some prefer him, but maybe its the detachment of time and distance that allow a more favorable view in hindsight.

But it is stunning to suggest Teevens, especially if based on results.

In any case, its interesting to see the depths of disapproval and despair with Shaw.

My attachment to Stanford sports grew in a time that involved regular hope against hope, sometimes rewarded and then the more sweet for it.   I was a student from 90-95 and our record over that period was just over 500.  

The nadir for the program was Walt's last season, 1-11 after years of nothing but futility.

In my time we've had 2 coaches who've had more winning seasons than losing, and they both got heaps of crap from the fan boards.

Shaw, even while delivering winning seasons.

edit: As far as I'm concerned, and not just in hindsight, I give a near complete pass for what occurred during the Covid affected seasons. It's just an entirely different set of luck and skills that determines outcomes in such circumstances.