[CPSteeple]

I suspect I was one of the last holdouts on this board still thinking there was a chance for a good season with this team. I was mistaken. If trends we’ve all seen over the last few years continue the only game I can see that we have a decent shot of winning is vs Arizona State, which leaves us 2-10.  Shaw would have to go at that point. If he doesn’t, Muir has to go.

+1. I shared your cautious optimism heading into the season, knowing the defense was going to be a bit of a dumpster fire. But last night was the final straw for me as well, more specifically regarding Shaw. The team played hard last night, there was no quit, but this program is desperately in need of new ideas and energy from the top. I can only imagine how deflating it is for these players to trot out there every week knowing they have to score 30+ (now 40+) points per game to have a shot at winning.

[CPSteeple]

I suspect I was one of the last holdouts on this board still thinking there was a chance for a good season with this team. I was mistaken. If trends we’ve all seen over the last few years continue the only game I can see that we have a decent shot of winning is vs Arizona State, which leaves us 2-10.  Shaw would have to go at that point. If he doesn’t, Muir has to go.

+1. I shared your cautious optimism heading into the season, knowing the defense was going to be a bit of a dumpster fire. But last night was the final straw for me as well, more specifically regarding Shaw. The team played hard last night, there was no quit, but this program is desperately in need of new ideas and energy from the top. I can only imagine how deflating it is for these players to trot out there every week knowing they have to score 30+ (now 40+) points per game to have a shot at winning.