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Over the years I’m sure other football players have also transferred before getting a degree. One I recall is Padric Scott.

https://www.azcardinals.com/news/padric-...s-10407161

From what I heard, Padric was a true Renaissance man and football was just one of the many things he wanted to do at Stanford. When his coaches wanted him to spend more time on football and less on other pursuits, he rebelled. Plus the fact he got a little homesick for Tallahassee. He sort of fits the profile of "smart kids who happen to play football".

Stanford should be looking for football players who happen to be very smart. Not the other way around, which is big reason how Shaw lost his way. That and letting his staff go to seed and failing to develop the players he got.

It all begins with this failing: the deterioration of the coaching staff.  Everything else follows from this: subpar recruiting, poor player development, inadequate S&C (and the attendant injuries), low morale, lack of discipline, etc.  And the Ls pile up on top.

It is a given, absolutely. It's all about the HC. Shaw is the wrong guy at the wrong time -- and has been for several years. This board quibbles with how long this has been been the case but the issue is simply that he is conspicuously, embarrassingly past his expiration date. That he is still in charge is, to say the least, problematic.

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Over the years I’m sure other football players have also transferred before getting a degree. One I recall is Padric Scott.

https://www.azcardinals.com/news/padric-...s-10407161

From what I heard, Padric was a true Renaissance man and football was just one of the many things he wanted to do at Stanford. When his coaches wanted him to spend more time on football and less on other pursuits, he rebelled. Plus the fact he got a little homesick for Tallahassee. He sort of fits the profile of "smart kids who happen to play football".

Stanford should be looking for football players who happen to be very smart. Not the other way around, which is big reason how Shaw lost his way. That and letting his staff go to seed and failing to develop the players he got.

It all begins with this failing: the deterioration of the coaching staff.  Everything else follows from this: subpar recruiting, poor player development, inadequate S&C (and the attendant injuries), low morale, lack of discipline, etc.  And the Ls pile up on top.

It is a given, absolutely. It's all about the HC. Shaw is the wrong guy at the wrong time -- and has been for several years. This board quibbles with how long this has been been the case but the issue is simply that he is conspicuously, embarrassingly past his expiration date. That he is still in charge is, to say the least, problematic.