[cardcrimson]

Uh yes, we're saying Shaw was a bad coach. Many of us felt that way as far back as 2011. Can you say "Fiasco Bowl"?

And yes, Shaw's utterly stupid move to bring in the kicker at game's end resulted in Stanford losing. I remember watching the game in a bar with the music playing and no other football fans around to influence my reaction...which took the form of me - and probably most Stanford fans.... screaming "nooooo!" when Shaw called in the kicker.  "Fiasco" is an apt description of what happened next.

Come on Brick. The Fiasco Bowl wasn't nearly as bad as the "It's what we do" Bowl in Pasadena. . . .

[cardcrimson]

Uh yes, we're saying Shaw was a bad coach. Many of us felt that way as far back as 2011. Can you say "Fiasco Bowl"?

And yes, Shaw's utterly stupid move to bring in the kicker at game's end resulted in Stanford losing. I remember watching the game in a bar with the music playing and no other football fans around to influence my reaction...which took the form of me - and probably most Stanford fans.... screaming "nooooo!" when Shaw called in the kicker.  "Fiasco" is an apt description of what happened next.

Come on Brick. The Fiasco Bowl wasn't nearly as bad as the "It's what we do" Bowl in Pasadena. . . .