[lex24]

The Giants are a clown show. 

All season: Farhan and Gabe are returning

Tuesday: Logan Webb calls out the team culture

Thursday: Farhan goes on radio and backs down from his "Gabe is returning mantra"

Friday: Gabe is fired, Farhan makes comments that make clear it wasn't his idea to fire Gabe while claiming it was his decision, and then he says he needs to be open to different ideas.

As far as we know: Let's leave the guy in charge of all baseball decisions who brought us here.

Now let's bring in a manager who is on a short leash, because the guy who hires him can easily be removed next year, and be replaced by someone who won't have any allegiance to the guy???

Let's be clear, it's not just the issue of maybe being employed a year for potential manager candidates, it's that you have to uproot and move your family and home too. These decisions aren't made with one year horizons in mind.

The Giants are toxic to free agents right now. They are not exactly a well-oiled machine, and everything about them is mediocre.  They are a middling team by every meaningful measure, including into the farm system.

I've asked this before, I'll ask it again. What example is there of a coach/manager/GM getting a "vote of confidence" after having a poor record of performance that required such a statement, and then a turnaround happening? The only example I can think of is Brian Kelly at Notre Dame. Every other coach or GM who has ever been in the position Farhan finds himself in, has ultimately been replaced in short order because they never improved their performance.

The Giants don't know who they are or what they want to be. At least if you were all-in on Farhan, fans could disagree with and not like him or Gabe, but at least you know who is in charge, the Giants are hell bent on winning based on marginal matchup percentages, and he's being given autonomy to do what he wants so he can be fairly judged. Keeping someone in their job with higher ups telling them to do it differently, is just executive incompetence of the highest order. No well run organization does this. 

I've asked this about Stanford. Who the F is in charge?  The Giants' 30 owners are like Stanford's 30 Board members. It's just a totally incompetent and terrible organization decision making structure. No wonder they are both now flailing.

Nonsense.

The “terrible structure “ is no different than the one that brought home 3 WS.  They have an Ownership Group. LLC, I believe.  It has a managing partner/Chairman, currently Greg Johnson.  Johnson family owns 27%.  The “principal owners”.  Not sure, of course, how the operating agreement reads, but I suspect the Chair can be voted out by some number of the shares held.  Bill Newcom was essentially pushed out. The Chair speaks for the group.

Zaidi is in charge from a player operations perspective .  He made that clear.  He and Kapler were in lockstep.  Things devolved. You not only had players suggesting issues in the Clubhouse (same thing happened to Kapler in Philly) you also saw Zaidi reference that they played worst when it mattered most.  The AZ series being a great example. (I watched that series. Did you? The difference in “energy” was palpable. Giants slept walked through their most important series of the year.)

Zaidi obviously has been told (and understands) ) that they need to tweak the “process” some. Good. Had to happen. Doesn’t mean Zaidi is going to throw out analytics etc. Does mean that they manager they hire will not be as analytics based. Someone who can push back some. More of a blend if you will.

The Giants are a storied franchise, playing in a beautiful park in a great City.  They by no means are or will be “toxic” to FA’s. They signed 5 last year. And had Correa in the fold.The bigger question is whether the farm system, which is appreciably better now than when FZ took over, develop not just serviceable ML players, but “stars”. That is the question upon which Zaidis job hinges.

As for the manager, that’s easy. He’s not going to sign a one-year deal. No one does that. I suspect at least 3. So, problem solved.

[lex24]

The Giants are a clown show. 

All season: Farhan and Gabe are returning

Tuesday: Logan Webb calls out the team culture

Thursday: Farhan goes on radio and backs down from his "Gabe is returning mantra"

Friday: Gabe is fired, Farhan makes comments that make clear it wasn't his idea to fire Gabe while claiming it was his decision, and then he says he needs to be open to different ideas.

As far as we know: Let's leave the guy in charge of all baseball decisions who brought us here.

Now let's bring in a manager who is on a short leash, because the guy who hires him can easily be removed next year, and be replaced by someone who won't have any allegiance to the guy???

Let's be clear, it's not just the issue of maybe being employed a year for potential manager candidates, it's that you have to uproot and move your family and home too. These decisions aren't made with one year horizons in mind.

The Giants are toxic to free agents right now. They are not exactly a well-oiled machine, and everything about them is mediocre.  They are a middling team by every meaningful measure, including into the farm system.

I've asked this before, I'll ask it again. What example is there of a coach/manager/GM getting a "vote of confidence" after having a poor record of performance that required such a statement, and then a turnaround happening? The only example I can think of is Brian Kelly at Notre Dame. Every other coach or GM who has ever been in the position Farhan finds himself in, has ultimately been replaced in short order because they never improved their performance.

The Giants don't know who they are or what they want to be. At least if you were all-in on Farhan, fans could disagree with and not like him or Gabe, but at least you know who is in charge, the Giants are hell bent on winning based on marginal matchup percentages, and he's being given autonomy to do what he wants so he can be fairly judged. Keeping someone in their job with higher ups telling them to do it differently, is just executive incompetence of the highest order. No well run organization does this. 

I've asked this about Stanford. Who the F is in charge?  The Giants' 30 owners are like Stanford's 30 Board members. It's just a totally incompetent and terrible organization decision making structure. No wonder they are both now flailing.

Nonsense.

The “terrible structure “ is no different than the one that brought home 3 WS.  They have an Ownership Group. LLC, I believe.  It has a managing partner/Chairman, currently Greg Johnson.  Johnson family owns 27%.  The “principal owners”.  Not sure, of course, how the operating agreement reads, but I suspect the Chair can be voted out by some number of the shares held.  Bill Newcom was essentially pushed out. The Chair speaks for the group.

Zaidi is in charge from a player operations perspective .  He made that clear.  He and Kapler were in lockstep.  Things devolved. You not only had players suggesting issues in the Clubhouse (same thing happened to Kapler in Philly) you also saw Zaidi reference that they played worst when it mattered most.  The AZ series being a great example. (I watched that series. Did you? The difference in “energy” was palpable. Giants slept walked through their most important series of the year.)

Zaidi obviously has been told (and understands) ) that they need to tweak the “process” some. Good. Had to happen. Doesn’t mean Zaidi is going to throw out analytics etc. Does mean that they manager they hire will not be as analytics based. Someone who can push back some. More of a blend if you will.

The Giants are a storied franchise, playing in a beautiful park in a great City.  They by no means are or will be “toxic” to FA’s. They signed 5 last year. And had Correa in the fold.The bigger question is whether the farm system, which is appreciably better now than when FZ took over, develop not just serviceable ML players, but “stars”. That is the question upon which Zaidis job hinges.

As for the manager, that’s easy. He’s not going to sign a one-year deal. No one does that. I suspect at least 3. So, problem solved.