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Nonsense.

The “terrible structure “ is no different than the one that brought  home 3 WS.  They have an Ownership Group. LLC, I believe.  It has a managing partner/Chairman, currently Greg Johnson.  Johnson family owns 27%.  The “principal owners”.  Not sure, of course, how the operating agreement reads, but I suspect the Chair can be voted out by some number of the shares held.  Bill Newcom was essentially pushed out. The Chair speaks for the group. 

Zaidi is in charge from a player operations perspective .  He made that clear.  He and Kapler were in lockstep.  Things devolved. You not only had players suggesting issues in the Clubhouse (same thing happened to Kapler in Philly) you also saw Zaidi reference that they played worst when it mattered most.  The AZ series being a great example. (I watched that series. Did you?  The difference in “energy” was palpable. Giants slept walked through their most important series of the year.)

Zaidi obviously has been told (and understands) ) that they need to tweak the “process” some. Good. Had to happen. Doesn’t mean Zaidi is  going to throw out analytics etc.  Does mean that they manager they hire will not be as analytics based.  Someone who can push back some.  More of a blend if you will. 

The Giants are a storied franchise, playing in a beautiful park in a once great City.  They by no means are or will be “toxic” to FA’s. They signed 5 last year.  And had Correa in the fold.The bigger question is whether the farm system, which is appreciably better now than when FZ took over, develop not just serviceable ML players, but  “stars”. That is the question upon which Zaidis job hinges.

As for the manager, that’s easy.  He’s not going to sign a one-year deal. No one does that.  I suspect at least 3.  So, problem solved.

Agree completely, though I added a word. 

The farm system is indeed a whole lot better than it was. That's on Farhan.

On July 18th, the Giants were 13 games over .500 and only a game and a half back of first. Today, they are four games under .500, have gone 2 and 8 over the last 10 and are 21 games back of first. Against a pretty easy schedule in September, they have gone 8-18. Pretty much the same players, with the addition of a few rookies who have actually contributed. The free fall is on Kapler.

The bright spot of the season is the rookies and perhaps they have saved Farhan's job, for now.

[cardcrimson]

Nonsense.

The “terrible structure “ is no different than the one that brought  home 3 WS.  They have an Ownership Group. LLC, I believe.  It has a managing partner/Chairman, currently Greg Johnson.  Johnson family owns 27%.  The “principal owners”.  Not sure, of course, how the operating agreement reads, but I suspect the Chair can be voted out by some number of the shares held.  Bill Newcom was essentially pushed out. The Chair speaks for the group. 

Zaidi is in charge from a player operations perspective .  He made that clear.  He and Kapler were in lockstep.  Things devolved. You not only had players suggesting issues in the Clubhouse (same thing happened to Kapler in Philly) you also saw Zaidi reference that they played worst when it mattered most.  The AZ series being a great example. (I watched that series. Did you?  The difference in “energy” was palpable. Giants slept walked through their most important series of the year.)

Zaidi obviously has been told (and understands) ) that they need to tweak the “process” some. Good. Had to happen. Doesn’t mean Zaidi is  going to throw out analytics etc.  Does mean that they manager they hire will not be as analytics based.  Someone who can push back some.  More of a blend if you will. 

The Giants are a storied franchise, playing in a beautiful park in a once great City.  They by no means are or will be “toxic” to FA’s. They signed 5 last year.  And had Correa in the fold.The bigger question is whether the farm system, which is appreciably better now than when FZ took over, develop not just serviceable ML players, but  “stars”. That is the question upon which Zaidis job hinges.

As for the manager, that’s easy.  He’s not going to sign a one-year deal. No one does that.  I suspect at least 3.  So, problem solved.

Agree completely, though I added a word. 

The farm system is indeed a whole lot better than it was. That's on Farhan.

On July 18th, the Giants were 13 games over .500 and only a game and a half back of first. Today, they are four games under .500, have gone 2 and 8 over the last 10 and are 21 games back of first. Against a pretty easy schedule in September, they have gone 8-18. Pretty much the same players, with the addition of a few rookies who have actually contributed. The free fall is on Kapler.

The bright spot of the season is the rookies and perhaps they have saved Farhan's job, for now.