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Patrick Bailey has been listed as a Gold Glove finalist. If he wins, he'd be the first rookie Gold Glove catcher since Charles Johnson of the Marlins in 1995. The other two are Gabriel Moreno (AZD), and JP Realmuto (PHL). Bailey led all catchers and ranked second overall with a fielding run value of +18, including +16 from pitch-framing.

https://www.mlb.com/giants/news/2023-gol...-finalists

BTW, you know that infielder that the Giants were seeking? Mauricio Dubon has also been listed as a Gold Glove finalist at second base and utility. My guess is that he wins the utility GG:

https://www.si.com/mlb/giants/news/forme...e-finalist

And not that it matters, but the shortstop I was hoping the Giants would sign, Dansby Swanson, was also listed as a GG finalist. And in the spirit of full disclosure, Carlos Correa is also a finalist for a Gold Glove. And former Giant, Zack Wheeler, is one of the three finalists at pitcher.

Curious how pitch framing metric is determined.  Do they take the pitcher and umpire into account?  I suspect when Javy Lopez caught Greg Maddox his pitch framing figure was high.  (Or would have been had they kept such a stat). As for the umps -all tend to have some horizontal or vertical leeway.  Thus, if you have an ump known to expand the corners, does that impact the pitch framing calculation?

Finally, if they go to Robo Umps (The KBO just announced that they are going that route) how much is Baileys value diminished.

His GG nomination is in part due to his CS rate.  Which was very high, even though it dropped from his Sept numbers.  (I ignore the Sept numbers cause Kapler played him into exhaustion.)  But it’s largely due to framing. His ball blocking skills were far from statistically elite.  He led the NL in passed balls.

I would add that his “runs saved above average” was second in the NL to Moreno due in great part to his “pop time” (second in the NL to Realmuto).  1.87 seconds from receiving the pitch to the time it reaches the glove of the second baseman/shortstop is amazing.  

I don’t think Bailey will win the award this year but he will certainly be in the mix for one or more in the future.

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Patrick Bailey has been listed as a Gold Glove finalist. If he wins, he'd be the first rookie Gold Glove catcher since Charles Johnson of the Marlins in 1995. The other two are Gabriel Moreno (AZD), and JP Realmuto (PHL). Bailey led all catchers and ranked second overall with a fielding run value of +18, including +16 from pitch-framing.

https://www.mlb.com/giants/news/2023-gol...-finalists

BTW, you know that infielder that the Giants were seeking? Mauricio Dubon has also been listed as a Gold Glove finalist at second base and utility. My guess is that he wins the utility GG:

https://www.si.com/mlb/giants/news/forme...e-finalist

And not that it matters, but the shortstop I was hoping the Giants would sign, Dansby Swanson, was also listed as a GG finalist. And in the spirit of full disclosure, Carlos Correa is also a finalist for a Gold Glove. And former Giant, Zack Wheeler, is one of the three finalists at pitcher.

Curious how pitch framing metric is determined.  Do they take the pitcher and umpire into account?  I suspect when Javy Lopez caught Greg Maddox his pitch framing figure was high.  (Or would have been had they kept such a stat). As for the umps -all tend to have some horizontal or vertical leeway.  Thus, if you have an ump known to expand the corners, does that impact the pitch framing calculation?

Finally, if they go to Robo Umps (The KBO just announced that they are going that route) how much is Baileys value diminished.

His GG nomination is in part due to his CS rate.  Which was very high, even though it dropped from his Sept numbers.  (I ignore the Sept numbers cause Kapler played him into exhaustion.)  But it’s largely due to framing. His ball blocking skills were far from statistically elite.  He led the NL in passed balls.

I would add that his “runs saved above average” was second in the NL to Moreno due in great part to his “pop time” (second in the NL to Realmuto).  1.87 seconds from receiving the pitch to the time it reaches the glove of the second baseman/shortstop is amazing.  

I don’t think Bailey will win the award this year but he will certainly be in the mix for one or more in the future.