[MV72018]

Can't imagine any Pac team having fewer fans for their home opener. Even if Stanford had beat the spread, that would have been my takeaway.

We've seen football at least have some fun moments despite the woeful lack of fan support, hopefully this men's hoops team will create some wonderful memories for themselves.

Someday Muir will finally reach the long overdue conclusion that it's time to clear Haase (or someone will do it for him). And maybe then I'll prepare to invest and risk getting my heart broken. But it's been almost a decade since we last danced, and two decades since we danced regularly, and at this point, it has been so long since Stanford MBB had a pulse that I long ago lost interest.

I still have interest... but whether I have a life may be debatable

A couple of points, this years CSUN team is NOT last years team.  They completely rebuilt their team through the portal.  The pregame odds don't seem to have taken that into account.  For many teams, comparing last years to this years will be a fools errand due to the portal.  Without Bynum and Gealer we would have lost this game.  Bynum and Gealer had NO turnovers, team had only ten and 5 of those came from Raynaud. After Andrej got hammered a time or two when he took it to the rack, he seemed to lose some of his aggression.  As the coach pointed out he needs to get a bit bigger and stronger.  He was an 18/19 year old going in against 22/23 year olds.  I don't have any problem with all the 3's we took, there are always a few bad games, our guys are all pretty close to historic 40 percent from that range, so fire away as far as I am concerned.  Continue to have almost twice the assists to turn overs and we will win a lot of games we would have lost last year, and this was one of those. When was the last time our point guards had NO turnovers?  If this game's Raynaud is the one we get all year, things will look up a bunch.
As far as crowds go, immediate past performance certainly makes a difference, but also impacting this is what I consider the totally incompetent marketing of our sports. Get people in the stands, give the tickets away cheap, make an effort to sell the product and them make it easy to see it.  Jack up the ticket prices where there is a demand.

Good points
Was dicey for much of game til the end.
4 of 5 starters good but Spencer Jones terrible ... how much due to an off night and how much due to arm/hand injury?
Stojakovic really looked bad, flying around out of control.
He needs more than weight and muscle, needs rethink what he's trying to do and when.
I think he has the necessary talent but it wasn't directed in any good way last night.
I haven't listened to Coach Haase postgame presser spin yet, might need line up a shot of "fortitude" ahead of time.

As expected, once again Haase's team debuts a season by playing grossly MEDIOCRE ball against a marshmallow opponent. WHY IS IT THAT NO HAASE TEAM EVER SURPRISES US WITH HOW WELL PREPARED, DISCIPLINED, DRILLED, AND EXPLOSIVE IT IS at the beginning of the season? Does Haase consider making such a showing early in bad taste? He seems to accept slow starts as a given. This is nauseating year after year. I expect us to finish slightly above .500 this year, but only because we schedule a bunch of stiffs and pushovers in the preseason (many of whom will give us trouble). We are long past the point of needing a new coach to breathe life and excitement into this program, one that in spite of some recruiting success continues to spin its wheels and that cannot remember the last time it's been to the Dance.

[MV72018]

Can't imagine any Pac team having fewer fans for their home opener. Even if Stanford had beat the spread, that would have been my takeaway.

We've seen football at least have some fun moments despite the woeful lack of fan support, hopefully this men's hoops team will create some wonderful memories for themselves.

Someday Muir will finally reach the long overdue conclusion that it's time to clear Haase (or someone will do it for him). And maybe then I'll prepare to invest and risk getting my heart broken. But it's been almost a decade since we last danced, and two decades since we danced regularly, and at this point, it has been so long since Stanford MBB had a pulse that I long ago lost interest.

I still have interest... but whether I have a life may be debatable

A couple of points, this years CSUN team is NOT last years team.  They completely rebuilt their team through the portal.  The pregame odds don't seem to have taken that into account.  For many teams, comparing last years to this years will be a fools errand due to the portal.  Without Bynum and Gealer we would have lost this game.  Bynum and Gealer had NO turnovers, team had only ten and 5 of those came from Raynaud. After Andrej got hammered a time or two when he took it to the rack, he seemed to lose some of his aggression.  As the coach pointed out he needs to get a bit bigger and stronger.  He was an 18/19 year old going in against 22/23 year olds.  I don't have any problem with all the 3's we took, there are always a few bad games, our guys are all pretty close to historic 40 percent from that range, so fire away as far as I am concerned.  Continue to have almost twice the assists to turn overs and we will win a lot of games we would have lost last year, and this was one of those. When was the last time our point guards had NO turnovers?  If this game's Raynaud is the one we get all year, things will look up a bunch.
As far as crowds go, immediate past performance certainly makes a difference, but also impacting this is what I consider the totally incompetent marketing of our sports. Get people in the stands, give the tickets away cheap, make an effort to sell the product and them make it easy to see it.  Jack up the ticket prices where there is a demand.

Good points
Was dicey for much of game til the end.
4 of 5 starters good but Spencer Jones terrible ... how much due to an off night and how much due to arm/hand injury?
Stojakovic really looked bad, flying around out of control.
He needs more than weight and muscle, needs rethink what he's trying to do and when.
I think he has the necessary talent but it wasn't directed in any good way last night.
I haven't listened to Coach Haase postgame presser spin yet, might need line up a shot of "fortitude" ahead of time.

As expected, once again Haase's team debuts a season by playing grossly MEDIOCRE ball against a marshmallow opponent. WHY IS IT THAT NO HAASE TEAM EVER SURPRISES US WITH HOW WELL PREPARED, DISCIPLINED, DRILLED, AND EXPLOSIVE IT IS at the beginning of the season? Does Haase consider making such a showing early in bad taste? He seems to accept slow starts as a given. This is nauseating year after year. I expect us to finish slightly above .500 this year, but only because we schedule a bunch of stiffs and pushovers in the preseason (many of whom will give us trouble). We are long past the point of needing a new coach to breathe life and excitement into this program, one that in spite of some recruiting success continues to spin its wheels and that cannot remember the last time it's been to the Dance.