[SamuelMcF]

There was talent on Wlat's '06 team. Harbaugh used it in '07 as the foundational element  of his Stanford career. Look where he had the program by '09. TT won't come close that by his third season.

True. To make sure I understand your point, you are saying the '06 team had talent that Harbaugh et al used to be a better team in '07 and beyond. The '22 team had little if any talent and therefore TT is going to have a much tougher time. I would support that assertion. There was no Toby Gerhart on the '22 team, for example. TT may never 'get there', but he clearly started with further to go.

That plus opponents have all been completely stacked with 23-year-old shouldn't-be-eligible-anymore Covid freebie super super seniors for the past couple years. This is the final year where that's the case.

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And by the way, it was "this ugly" for half of the games last season.

[SamuelMcF]

There was talent on Wlat's '06 team. Harbaugh used it in '07 as the foundational element  of his Stanford career. Look where he had the program by '09. TT won't come close that by his third season.

True. To make sure I understand your point, you are saying the '06 team had talent that Harbaugh et al used to be a better team in '07 and beyond. The '22 team had little if any talent and therefore TT is going to have a much tougher time. I would support that assertion. There was no Toby Gerhart on the '22 team, for example. TT may never 'get there', but he clearly started with further to go.

That plus opponents have all been completely stacked with 23-year-old shouldn't-be-eligible-anymore Covid freebie super super seniors for the past couple years. This is the final year where that's the case.

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And by the way, it was "this ugly" for half of the games last season.