[cardcrimson]

We just got 42 year old Justin Verlander. Two years removed from the Cy Young, but a 5.48 ERA last year (and a 4.78 FIP).

https://www.mlb.com/news/justin-verlande...Y2RiK8Bxpi

Thoughts?

When I think of Verlander, I think of his open-mouthed reaction on TV after the Panda hammered him in the 2012 Series.  

I don’t like the deal but it doesn’t surprise me.  We can add Verlander to the esteemed list of 40+ pitchers (Spahn, Johnson, Carlton) who joined the Giants towards the end of their careers.  I would expect him to have a similar level of success with SF as those Hall of Famers did with the Giants (a cumulative .480 W/L percentage)

An underrated (I think) element of adding the senior Hall of Fame pitcher is their effect on the younger pitching staff. Johnson's year with the Giants was 2009...we all know what happened in 2010. And 2012. And 2014. Maybe Verlander will have the same effect.

Yep. Totally agree.

Mike Krukow had a lot to say about this during his segment on the Murph and Markus show on Thu morning.  He also talked about how veteran pitchers can help young catchers, not just other pitchers.  You can find the segment at https://www.knbr.com/murphandmarkus/  Scroll to the 1/9 Krukow segment.

Thanks, makes sense. Stopped listening to KNBR when they dump Tolbert. Most of those who are there now are not good nor entertaining. . . .

[cardcrimson]

We just got 42 year old Justin Verlander. Two years removed from the Cy Young, but a 5.48 ERA last year (and a 4.78 FIP).

https://www.mlb.com/news/justin-verlande...Y2RiK8Bxpi

Thoughts?

When I think of Verlander, I think of his open-mouthed reaction on TV after the Panda hammered him in the 2012 Series.  

I don’t like the deal but it doesn’t surprise me.  We can add Verlander to the esteemed list of 40+ pitchers (Spahn, Johnson, Carlton) who joined the Giants towards the end of their careers.  I would expect him to have a similar level of success with SF as those Hall of Famers did with the Giants (a cumulative .480 W/L percentage)

An underrated (I think) element of adding the senior Hall of Fame pitcher is their effect on the younger pitching staff. Johnson's year with the Giants was 2009...we all know what happened in 2010. And 2012. And 2014. Maybe Verlander will have the same effect.

Yep. Totally agree.

Mike Krukow had a lot to say about this during his segment on the Murph and Markus show on Thu morning.  He also talked about how veteran pitchers can help young catchers, not just other pitchers.  You can find the segment at https://www.knbr.com/murphandmarkus/  Scroll to the 1/9 Krukow segment.

Thanks, makes sense. Stopped listening to KNBR when they dump Tolbert. Most of those who are there now are not good nor entertaining. . . .