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We do in Rogers, and others who release more conventionally, but range from over the top to lower-than-three quarters. Even without Rogers, there's a broad range: Statcast Arm Angle Leaderboard | baseballsavant.com

As for spring training results not having any bearing in reality...I'd have to agree. In the last 20 years, SFG didn't "win" the spring training standings until this year, but:

- They did finish second in both 2010 and 2011, both excellent years (until Posey got hurt). 
- The year they won 107 games, they finished 12th in the Cactus League. 
- Last year, they finished third in the Cactus League, and the year before they finished ninth of 15 teams in the Cactus League...but their season records for those years were one game apart.
- In 2016, they finished 13th of 15 in spring training, then went to the playoffs (losing to the Cubs). The very next year, they finished 3rd in spring training, but went 64-98.

So the spring record just doesn't matter. And I know it's a different sport, but this trivia question has always tickled me:

Only twice in the Super Bowl era have teams gone winless for a full season that weren't in their first year, the 2008 Detroit Lions and the 2017 Cleveland Browns. What else do they have in common?

Answer: They both went undefeated in their preseason.

Spring training success just doesn't matter.

I still think they'll win 90 games...

Can't even compare to football.  

In football, pre-season success may even be inversely correlated with regular season success. Teams with established QBs, starters, etc play them very little during the pre-season. Teams with a lot of uncertainty play starting quality players more to sort out their roster/lineups.

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We do in Rogers, and others who release more conventionally, but range from over the top to lower-than-three quarters. Even without Rogers, there's a broad range: Statcast Arm Angle Leaderboard | baseballsavant.com

As for spring training results not having any bearing in reality...I'd have to agree. In the last 20 years, SFG didn't "win" the spring training standings until this year, but:

- They did finish second in both 2010 and 2011, both excellent years (until Posey got hurt). 
- The year they won 107 games, they finished 12th in the Cactus League. 
- Last year, they finished third in the Cactus League, and the year before they finished ninth of 15 teams in the Cactus League...but their season records for those years were one game apart.
- In 2016, they finished 13th of 15 in spring training, then went to the playoffs (losing to the Cubs). The very next year, they finished 3rd in spring training, but went 64-98.

So the spring record just doesn't matter. And I know it's a different sport, but this trivia question has always tickled me:

Only twice in the Super Bowl era have teams gone winless for a full season that weren't in their first year, the 2008 Detroit Lions and the 2017 Cleveland Browns. What else do they have in common?

Answer: They both went undefeated in their preseason.

Spring training success just doesn't matter.

I still think they'll win 90 games...

Can't even compare to football.  

In football, pre-season success may even be inversely correlated with regular season success. Teams with established QBs, starters, etc play them very little during the pre-season. Teams with a lot of uncertainty play starting quality players more to sort out their roster/lineups.