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there’s been plenty of transfers including non degree candidates lately. I dont see why stanford shouldnt be operating at vandy’s level or better for admissions.

Then if they are non-degreed candidates, are they basically auditing courses? And if they are non-degree/audit candidates here for a year, couldn't Stanford greatly reduce entrance requirements for transfers?

The post-bacs aren't auditing - they're paying for and getting academic credits, but aren't in degree-seeking programs. The idea is to help them round out their academic records if they do want to pursue a degree program (even if not at Stanford), professional certification, etc.  Candidates/applicants currently need to meet admission requirements, and in the Faculty Senate discussion, it was pretty clear faculty expect the requirements to be equitable across the board, i.e. on a level playing field and not favoring student-athletes, for example. The Schools of Medicine and Engineering have pretty strong, income-generating post-bac programs already, so they have a vested interest in maintaining high admissions standards across the board institutionally.

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there’s been plenty of transfers including non degree candidates lately. I dont see why stanford shouldnt be operating at vandy’s level or better for admissions.

Then if they are non-degreed candidates, are they basically auditing courses? And if they are non-degree/audit candidates here for a year, couldn't Stanford greatly reduce entrance requirements for transfers?

Yes, Stanford has developed post-baccalaureate programs that are not degree-granting.  Traditionally, post-bac programs have been used to fulfill the requirements for a professional degree if they weren’t obtained as an undergraduate.  For example, say you were an English major and decided after graduation that you wanted to go to medical school.  You could enroll in a post-bac program to fulfill your pre-med requirements.

For many athletes, however, it is a way for them to enroll after they’ve already graduated from another university without having to apply and get into a master’s program.  For me it is not a problem if it is a means to their broader academic ambitions.  If it is just a way to matriculate them so they can play sportsball, what is the point?  Better dispense with the fiction and not have them enroll in school at all.

BC

Beat me to it, & +1, BC

[PalmTree]

there’s been plenty of transfers including non degree candidates lately. I dont see why stanford shouldnt be operating at vandy’s level or better for admissions.

Then if they are non-degreed candidates, are they basically auditing courses? And if they are non-degree/audit candidates here for a year, couldn't Stanford greatly reduce entrance requirements for transfers?

The post-bacs aren't auditing - they're paying for and getting academic credits, but aren't in degree-seeking programs. The idea is to help them round out their academic records if they do want to pursue a degree program (even if not at Stanford), professional certification, etc.  Candidates/applicants currently need to meet admission requirements, and in the Faculty Senate discussion, it was pretty clear faculty expect the requirements to be equitable across the board, i.e. on a level playing field and not favoring student-athletes, for example. The Schools of Medicine and Engineering have pretty strong, income-generating post-bac programs already, so they have a vested interest in maintaining high admissions standards across the board institutionally.

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there’s been plenty of transfers including non degree candidates lately. I dont see why stanford shouldnt be operating at vandy’s level or better for admissions.

Then if they are non-degreed candidates, are they basically auditing courses? And if they are non-degree/audit candidates here for a year, couldn't Stanford greatly reduce entrance requirements for transfers?

Yes, Stanford has developed post-baccalaureate programs that are not degree-granting.  Traditionally, post-bac programs have been used to fulfill the requirements for a professional degree if they weren’t obtained as an undergraduate.  For example, say you were an English major and decided after graduation that you wanted to go to medical school.  You could enroll in a post-bac program to fulfill your pre-med requirements.

For many athletes, however, it is a way for them to enroll after they’ve already graduated from another university without having to apply and get into a master’s program.  For me it is not a problem if it is a means to their broader academic ambitions.  If it is just a way to matriculate them so they can play sportsball, what is the point?  Better dispense with the fiction and not have them enroll in school at all.

BC

Beat me to it, & +1, BC