[KartyFan]

I learned nothing about our team from watching this game. It was basically last week's get against better competition. Which doesn't mean we were better because both results were almost as bad as they could have been.

Have to agree that the defensive coaching is a disaster. Some of the same players who looked good last year look completely lost.

At least we had a few chunky plays, most of which were called back with penalties...

[KartyFan]

I learned nothing about our team from watching this game. It was basically last week's get against better competition. Which doesn't mean we were better because both results were almost as bad as they could have been.

Have to agree that the defensive coaching is a disaster. Some of the same players who looked good last year look completely lost.

At least we had a few chunky plays, most of which were called back with penalties...