[JJJ]

This team is really young and talented, but not NBA-talented. They are clearly out of their element in the Bahamas, but I think they will improve over the course of the year and be even better next year. As ugly as this was, I vote that we give Haase through 2019-20 to right the ship.

I know that folks have seen this before, but Haase's record at UAB:
Year 1: 16-17 overall, T-7th in CUSA
Year 2: 18-13 overall, T-8th in CUSA
Year 3: 20-16 overall, T-4th in CUSA but won the CUSA tournament and made the NCAA Sweet Sixteen.
Year 4: 26-7 overall, 1st in CUSA but lost in the CUSA tournament and flamed out in the NIT vs BYU.

I understand that CUSA is not the Pac-12, but I still think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Last year was (slightly) better than Haase's first year at Stanford, and there is a lot of basketball left to play in 2018-19.

I give it one more year beyond that: '20-'21. Haase's first year as HC didn't include his own recruits - the incoming freshmen were Pugh and Stanback, recruited by Dawkins. I want to wait until the team is entirely Haase recruits.

Agreed 100%. Changing coaches every few years without giving them a chance to prove themselves is not constructive.

[JJJ]

This team is really young and talented, but not NBA-talented. They are clearly out of their element in the Bahamas, but I think they will improve over the course of the year and be even better next year. As ugly as this was, I vote that we give Haase through 2019-20 to right the ship.

I know that folks have seen this before, but Haase's record at UAB:
Year 1: 16-17 overall, T-7th in CUSA
Year 2: 18-13 overall, T-8th in CUSA
Year 3: 20-16 overall, T-4th in CUSA but won the CUSA tournament and made the NCAA Sweet Sixteen.
Year 4: 26-7 overall, 1st in CUSA but lost in the CUSA tournament and flamed out in the NIT vs BYU.

I understand that CUSA is not the Pac-12, but I still think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Last year was (slightly) better than Haase's first year at Stanford, and there is a lot of basketball left to play in 2018-19.

I give it one more year beyond that: '20-'21. Haase's first year as HC didn't include his own recruits - the incoming freshmen were Pugh and Stanback, recruited by Dawkins. I want to wait until the team is entirely Haase recruits.

Agreed 100%. Changing coaches every few years without giving them a chance to prove themselves is not constructive.

[Phogge]

It's clear that Stanford has become a soccer school.

[Phogge]

It's clear that Stanford has become a soccer school.

[Austroturf]

The way we looked against North Carolina, Wisconsin and Florida does not give me much optimism for when conference play starts.  It's no shame to lose these games, but we weren't even competitive.

Apparently we were only down two to Wisconsin with six minutes left. So you would have to say we were reasonably competitive in that one.
It does look a little bleak for the season, though. No denying that.

True.  With six and change to go, we were down only two (44-42), then the Badgers went on a 9-0 run, and we never got closer than 9 again.  I guess that's competitive, though we never once led in the game (a tie at 22 in the first half was the closest we came to getting a lead).

[Austroturf]

The way we looked against North Carolina, Wisconsin and Florida does not give me much optimism for when conference play starts.  It's no shame to lose these games, but we weren't even competitive.

Apparently we were only down two to Wisconsin with six minutes left. So you would have to say we were reasonably competitive in that one.
It does look a little bleak for the season, though. No denying that.

True.  With six and change to go, we were down only two (44-42), then the Badgers went on a 9-0 run, and we never got closer than 9 again.  I guess that's competitive, though we never once led in the game (a tie at 22 in the first half was the closest we came to getting a lead).