[Phogge]

Could this be Shaw’s last shot?

[Phogge]

Could this be Shaw’s last shot?

[bl82]

Serious question: if Shaw were to take an NFL HC job, what would he do about an OC?

[bl82]

Serious question: if Shaw were to take an NFL HC job, what would he do about an OC?

[lex24]

No, that’s not serious.

Serious question:  if Shaw were to take an NFL HC job, what would  he do about an OC?

[lex24]

No, that’s not serious.

Serious question:  if Shaw were to take an NFL HC job, what would  he do about an OC?

[BostonCard]

As usual, he will be mentioned as a top candidate.  But Shaw will stay, until he leaves.

BC

[BostonCard]

As usual, he will be mentioned as a top candidate.  But Shaw will stay, until he leaves.

BC

[Phogge]

May be time.

[Phogge]

May be time.

[OutsiderFan]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

[OutsiderFan]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

[Phogge]

Actually they went 10-3 in 2016.

[Phogge]

Actually they went 10-3 in 2016.

[OutsiderFan]

Actually they went 10-3 in 2016.

I don't really count bowl games getting you to 10 wins, as they are for the most part meaningless.  

You aren't competing for conference and national titles without 10+ regular season wins.  Shaw was only getting NFL love because he won 10+ regular season games in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2015, IMO.  It seems in NFL circles right now getting to the Big Ten Championship game at Northwestern is a bigger deal than going 8-4 or 9-3 at Stanford, given Pat Fitzgerald's stock right now.

Bill Walsh, Dennis Green, and Jim Harbaugh all struck when the iron was hot.  Shaw didn't, and I don't think it is as hot anymore.

[OutsiderFan]

Actually they went 10-3 in 2016.

I don't really count bowl games getting you to 10 wins, as they are for the most part meaningless.  

You aren't competing for conference and national titles without 10+ regular season wins.  Shaw was only getting NFL love because he won 10+ regular season games in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2015, IMO.  It seems in NFL circles right now getting to the Big Ten Championship game at Northwestern is a bigger deal than going 8-4 or 9-3 at Stanford, given Pat Fitzgerald's stock right now.

Bill Walsh, Dennis Green, and Jim Harbaugh all struck when the iron was hot.  Shaw didn't, and I don't think it is as hot anymore.

[Phogge]

Funny, I bet Saban counts the bowls as wins. As does every coach, pundit and pollster.

[Phogge]

Funny, I bet Saban counts the bowls as wins. As does every coach, pundit and pollster.

[JohnR34231]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

Isn't it possible Shaw's name isn't being tossed around because he has never shown any interest in the NFL and teams are getting tired of asking?
As far as next year's schedule is concerned, I suspect these games were scheduled when Northwestern and UCF weren't nearly as strong as they are now.
So to say it was insanity because they have become powerful isn't terribly accurate.
I do agree that if Shaw wanted to go to the NFL the time to do it was when he had gone to three Rose Bowls in four years. That is not going to consistently happen at Stanford.

[JohnR34231]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

Isn't it possible Shaw's name isn't being tossed around because he has never shown any interest in the NFL and teams are getting tired of asking?
As far as next year's schedule is concerned, I suspect these games were scheduled when Northwestern and UCF weren't nearly as strong as they are now.
So to say it was insanity because they have become powerful isn't terribly accurate.
I do agree that if Shaw wanted to go to the NFL the time to do it was when he had gone to three Rose Bowls in four years. That is not going to consistently happen at Stanford.

[OutsiderFan]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

Isn't it possible Shaw's name isn't being tossed around because he has never shown any interest in the NFL and teams are getting tired of asking?
As far as next year's schedule is concerned, I suspect these games were scheduled when Northwestern and UCF weren't nearly as strong as they are now.
So to say it was insanity because they have become powerful isn't terribly accurate.

You're kidding, right?  Since when has not showing interest ever stopped a name from being bandied about?  Shaw is not being mentioned now because the bloom is off his rose because he has clearly slipped.  That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't as a good as he was when his name was getting thrown out, but perception is reality.  Big difference in perceived value when you have your team in the Fiesta and Rose Bowls as opposed to the Sun and Alamo Bowls.

I don't have a problem with scheduling Northwestern, but Stanford should NEVER schedule a home and home with a Group of 5 school from Florida.  Stanford should get out of that game.  No school in the country will play Three Top 20 teams from the previous season OOC.  Why the hell should Stanford?

[OutsiderFan]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

Isn't it possible Shaw's name isn't being tossed around because he has never shown any interest in the NFL and teams are getting tired of asking?
As far as next year's schedule is concerned, I suspect these games were scheduled when Northwestern and UCF weren't nearly as strong as they are now.
So to say it was insanity because they have become powerful isn't terribly accurate.

You're kidding, right?  Since when has not showing interest ever stopped a name from being bandied about?  Shaw is not being mentioned now because the bloom is off his rose because he has clearly slipped.  That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't as a good as he was when his name was getting thrown out, but perception is reality.  Big difference in perceived value when you have your team in the Fiesta and Rose Bowls as opposed to the Sun and Alamo Bowls.

I don't have a problem with scheduling Northwestern, but Stanford should NEVER schedule a home and home with a Group of 5 school from Florida.  Stanford should get out of that game.  No school in the country will play Three Top 20 teams from the previous season OOC.  Why the hell should Stanford?

[JohnR34231]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

Isn't it possible Shaw's name isn't being tossed around because he has never shown any interest in the NFL and teams are getting tired of asking?
As far as next year's schedule is concerned, I suspect these games were scheduled when Northwestern and UCF weren't nearly as strong as they are now.
So to say it was insanity because they have become powerful isn't terribly accurate.

You're kidding, right?  Since when has not showing interest ever stopped a name from being bandied about?  Shaw is not being mentioned now because the bloom is off his rose because he has clearly slipped.  That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't as a good as he was when his name was getting thrown out, but perception is reality.  Big difference in perceived value when you have your team in the Fiesta and Rose Bowls as opposed to the Sun and Alamo Bowls.

I don't have a problem with scheduling Northwestern, but Stanford should NEVER schedule a home and home with a Group of 5 school from Florida.  Stanford should get out of that game.  No school in the country will play Three Top 20 teams from the previous season OOC.  Why the hell should Stanford?

To be honest with you, I don't follow the NFL enough to know when names are being bandied about or not. 
If Shaw really wanted an NFL job, I would be surprised if he couldn't get one. Sure he isn't as hot as he was three or four years ago.
Hey, Denny Green got one with an 8-4 record for one year.
Also, we're going to call up UCF and say sorry, we're cancelling next season's game? You guys are too good. Doubtful.

[JohnR34231]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

Isn't it possible Shaw's name isn't being tossed around because he has never shown any interest in the NFL and teams are getting tired of asking?
As far as next year's schedule is concerned, I suspect these games were scheduled when Northwestern and UCF weren't nearly as strong as they are now.
So to say it was insanity because they have become powerful isn't terribly accurate.

You're kidding, right?  Since when has not showing interest ever stopped a name from being bandied about?  Shaw is not being mentioned now because the bloom is off his rose because he has clearly slipped.  That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't as a good as he was when his name was getting thrown out, but perception is reality.  Big difference in perceived value when you have your team in the Fiesta and Rose Bowls as opposed to the Sun and Alamo Bowls.

I don't have a problem with scheduling Northwestern, but Stanford should NEVER schedule a home and home with a Group of 5 school from Florida.  Stanford should get out of that game.  No school in the country will play Three Top 20 teams from the previous season OOC.  Why the hell should Stanford?

To be honest with you, I don't follow the NFL enough to know when names are being bandied about or not. 
If Shaw really wanted an NFL job, I would be surprised if he couldn't get one. Sure he isn't as hot as he was three or four years ago.
Hey, Denny Green got one with an 8-4 record for one year.
Also, we're going to call up UCF and say sorry, we're cancelling next season's game? You guys are too good. Doubtful.

[OutsiderFan]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

Isn't it possible Shaw's name isn't being tossed around because he has never shown any interest in the NFL and teams are getting tired of asking?
As far as next year's schedule is concerned, I suspect these games were scheduled when Northwestern and UCF weren't nearly as strong as they are now.
So to say it was insanity because they have become powerful isn't terribly accurate.

You're kidding, right?  Since when has not showing interest ever stopped a name from being bandied about?  Shaw is not being mentioned now because the bloom is off his rose because he has clearly slipped.  That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't as a good as he was when his name was getting thrown out, but perception is reality.  Big difference in perceived value when you have your team in the Fiesta and Rose Bowls as opposed to the Sun and Alamo Bowls.

I don't have a problem with scheduling Northwestern, but Stanford should NEVER schedule a home and home with a Group of 5 school from Florida.  Stanford should get out of that game.  No school in the country will play Three Top 20 teams from the previous season OOC.  Why the hell should Stanford?

To be honest with you, I don't follow the NFL enough to know when names are being bandied about or not. 
If Shaw really wanted an NFL job, I would be surprised if he couldn't get one. Sure he isn't as hot as he was three or four years ago.
Hey, Denny Green, got one with an 8-4 record.

Green got his NFL gig in part because he was from the Walsh coaching tree - all the rage in the early 1990s - and because he turned the Stanford program around himself. Shaw took over from Jim Harbaugh a program that was already turned around.  If Shaw had taken Stanford from 4-8 to 8-4, he'd be much more coveted by the NFL than he seems to be right now.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe David Shaw could get an NFL HC job now even if he wanted one. His teams haven't done anything especially impressive in three seasons. The fact Pat Fitzgerald is in demand by the NFL is a bit surprising to me. Brian Kelly is a college coach more coveted by the NFL than Shaw is also.

[OutsiderFan]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

Isn't it possible Shaw's name isn't being tossed around because he has never shown any interest in the NFL and teams are getting tired of asking?
As far as next year's schedule is concerned, I suspect these games were scheduled when Northwestern and UCF weren't nearly as strong as they are now.
So to say it was insanity because they have become powerful isn't terribly accurate.

You're kidding, right?  Since when has not showing interest ever stopped a name from being bandied about?  Shaw is not being mentioned now because the bloom is off his rose because he has clearly slipped.  That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't as a good as he was when his name was getting thrown out, but perception is reality.  Big difference in perceived value when you have your team in the Fiesta and Rose Bowls as opposed to the Sun and Alamo Bowls.

I don't have a problem with scheduling Northwestern, but Stanford should NEVER schedule a home and home with a Group of 5 school from Florida.  Stanford should get out of that game.  No school in the country will play Three Top 20 teams from the previous season OOC.  Why the hell should Stanford?

To be honest with you, I don't follow the NFL enough to know when names are being bandied about or not. 
If Shaw really wanted an NFL job, I would be surprised if he couldn't get one. Sure he isn't as hot as he was three or four years ago.
Hey, Denny Green, got one with an 8-4 record.

Green got his NFL gig in part because he was from the Walsh coaching tree - all the rage in the early 1990s - and because he turned the Stanford program around himself. Shaw took over from Jim Harbaugh a program that was already turned around.  If Shaw had taken Stanford from 4-8 to 8-4, he'd be much more coveted by the NFL than he seems to be right now.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe David Shaw could get an NFL HC job now even if he wanted one. His teams haven't done anything especially impressive in three seasons. The fact Pat Fitzgerald is in demand by the NFL is a bit surprising to me. Brian Kelly is a college coach more coveted by the NFL than Shaw is also.

[JohnR34231]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

Isn't it possible Shaw's name isn't being tossed around because he has never shown any interest in the NFL and teams are getting tired of asking?
As far as next year's schedule is concerned, I suspect these games were scheduled when Northwestern and UCF weren't nearly as strong as they are now.
So to say it was insanity because they have become powerful isn't terribly accurate.

You're kidding, right?  Since when has not showing interest ever stopped a name from being bandied about?  Shaw is not being mentioned now because the bloom is off his rose because he has clearly slipped.  That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't as a good as he was when his name was getting thrown out, but perception is reality.  Big difference in perceived value when you have your team in the Fiesta and Rose Bowls as opposed to the Sun and Alamo Bowls.

I don't have a problem with scheduling Northwestern, but Stanford should NEVER schedule a home and home with a Group of 5 school from Florida.  Stanford should get out of that game.  No school in the country will play Three Top 20 teams from the previous season OOC.  Why the hell should Stanford?

To be honest with you, I don't follow the NFL enough to know when names are being bandied about or not. 
If Shaw really wanted an NFL job, I would be surprised if he couldn't get one. Sure he isn't as hot as he was three or four years ago.
Hey, Denny Green, got one with an 8-4 record.

Green got his NFL gig in part because he was from the Walsh coaching tree - all the rage in the early 1990s - and because he turned the Stanford program around himself. Shaw took over from Jim Harbaugh a program that was already turned around.  If Shaw had taken Stanford from 4-8 to 8-4, he'd be much more coveted by the NFL than he seems to be right now.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe David Shaw could get an NFL HC job now even if he wanted one. His teams haven't done anything especially impressive in three seasons. The fact Pat Fitzgerald is in demand by the NFL is a bit surprising to me. Brian Kelly is a college coach more coveted by the NFL than Shaw is also.

Well, like I said I don't follow the NFL that much so you could be right.
I do know that once upon a time Stanford was considered such a difficult place to consistently win at that some one with Shaw's coaching record would definitely be in demand in the NFL, even though he's gone three years without going to a major bowl game.  It's possible, I suppose, that it is no longer true.

[JohnR34231]

I think it says all you need to know that Pat Fitzgerald’s name is being tossed around and Shaw’s isn’t at the moment. Shaw may want the NFL, but does the NFL want Shaw? He’s now failed to win 10 games 3 straight seasons and it is objectively clear he has slipped and hasn’t found a way to get back on top.

I agree Shaw should go now because next year’s schedule is even more brutal than this year’s. Trade SDSU for at UCF and UC Davis for Northwestern, and then Notre Dame, and the conference slate. Truly insane for a program to do this to itself.

Isn't it possible Shaw's name isn't being tossed around because he has never shown any interest in the NFL and teams are getting tired of asking?
As far as next year's schedule is concerned, I suspect these games were scheduled when Northwestern and UCF weren't nearly as strong as they are now.
So to say it was insanity because they have become powerful isn't terribly accurate.

You're kidding, right?  Since when has not showing interest ever stopped a name from being bandied about?  Shaw is not being mentioned now because the bloom is off his rose because he has clearly slipped.  That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't as a good as he was when his name was getting thrown out, but perception is reality.  Big difference in perceived value when you have your team in the Fiesta and Rose Bowls as opposed to the Sun and Alamo Bowls.

I don't have a problem with scheduling Northwestern, but Stanford should NEVER schedule a home and home with a Group of 5 school from Florida.  Stanford should get out of that game.  No school in the country will play Three Top 20 teams from the previous season OOC.  Why the hell should Stanford?

To be honest with you, I don't follow the NFL enough to know when names are being bandied about or not. 
If Shaw really wanted an NFL job, I would be surprised if he couldn't get one. Sure he isn't as hot as he was three or four years ago.
Hey, Denny Green, got one with an 8-4 record.

Green got his NFL gig in part because he was from the Walsh coaching tree - all the rage in the early 1990s - and because he turned the Stanford program around himself. Shaw took over from Jim Harbaugh a program that was already turned around.  If Shaw had taken Stanford from 4-8 to 8-4, he'd be much more coveted by the NFL than he seems to be right now.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe David Shaw could get an NFL HC job now even if he wanted one. His teams haven't done anything especially impressive in three seasons. The fact Pat Fitzgerald is in demand by the NFL is a bit surprising to me. Brian Kelly is a college coach more coveted by the NFL than Shaw is also.

Well, like I said I don't follow the NFL that much so you could be right.
I do know that once upon a time Stanford was considered such a difficult place to consistently win at that some one with Shaw's coaching record would definitely be in demand in the NFL, even though he's gone three years without going to a major bowl game.  It's possible, I suppose, that it is no longer true.

[CompSci87]

Did this really turn into an OF dumps on Shaw thread? Am I in some weird alternate 2019 instead of the real one?

[CompSci87]

Did this really turn into an OF dumps on Shaw thread? Am I in some weird alternate 2019 instead of the real one?

[OutsiderFan]

Did this really turn into an OF dumps on Shaw thread? Am I in some weird alternate 2019 instead of the real one?

I'm not dumping on Shaw. Just pointing out what the evidence seems to suggest re: Shaw's NFL value right now.

[OutsiderFan]

Did this really turn into an OF dumps on Shaw thread? Am I in some weird alternate 2019 instead of the real one?

I'm not dumping on Shaw. Just pointing out what the evidence seems to suggest re: Shaw's NFL value right now.

[BostonCard]

Well, the folks at ESPN still think Shaw should be considered:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25626...heir-picks

6. David Shaw: 10 points
Current job: Head coach, Stanford Cardinal

NFL experience: Former assistant for Ravens (2002-05), Raiders (1998-2001) and Eagles (1997)

Shaw's work at Stanford is exemplary, and he has been a rumored NFL target for years. His background is on offense, which is where teams could look again this offseason after the Rams, Bears and Colts found success the past two seasons after hiring from that side of the ball.

They evidently don't think that the bloom is off the rose.

Also mentioned in the article: Vic Fangio (#3), Jim Harbaugh (#5)

BC

[BostonCard]

Well, the folks at ESPN still think Shaw should be considered:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25626...heir-picks

6. David Shaw: 10 points
Current job: Head coach, Stanford Cardinal

NFL experience: Former assistant for Ravens (2002-05), Raiders (1998-2001) and Eagles (1997)

Shaw's work at Stanford is exemplary, and he has been a rumored NFL target for years. His background is on offense, which is where teams could look again this offseason after the Rams, Bears and Colts found success the past two seasons after hiring from that side of the ball.

They evidently don't think that the bloom is off the rose.

Also mentioned in the article: Vic Fangio (#3), Jim Harbaugh (#5)

BC

[terry]

Shaw's name has been mentioned in the speculation regarding the head coach jobs for the Broncos and the Jets. Shaw also has come up in the general context of college coaches who would be attractive to NFL teams.

For example -- 

http://1043thefan.com/2079112/broncos-he...ankings-1/

https://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports/...486653002/

https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/12-coaches-.../300283964

https://www.profootballweekly.com/2018/1...t/axmrhy8/

[terry]

Shaw's name has been mentioned in the speculation regarding the head coach jobs for the Broncos and the Jets. Shaw also has come up in the general context of college coaches who would be attractive to NFL teams.

For example -- 

http://1043thefan.com/2079112/broncos-he...ankings-1/

https://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports/...486653002/

https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/12-coaches-.../300283964

https://www.profootballweekly.com/2018/1...t/axmrhy8/

[SF_Cardinal_Fan]

Eight NFL teams to hire a new head coach:

Browns
Packers
Jets
Cardinals
Bengals
Broncos
Buccaneers
Dolphins

[SF_Cardinal_Fan]

Eight NFL teams to hire a new head coach:

Browns
Packers
Jets
Cardinals
Bengals
Broncos
Buccaneers
Dolphins

[OutsiderFan]

Shaw's name has been mentioned in the speculation regarding the head coach jobs for the Broncos and the Jets. Shaw also has come up in the general context of college coaches who would be attractive to NFL teams.

For example -- 

http://1043thefan.com/2079112/broncos-he...ankings-1/

https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/12-coaches-.../300283964

https://www.profootballweekly.com/2018/1...t/axmrhy8/

My belief Shaw wouldn't be an option was based on an ESPN report that threw out possibilities for all current NFL HC vacancies.  I didn't see David Shaw's name mentioned with any of them, but did see Harbaugh, Fitzgerald and Kelly's name mentioned in that report.

I guess I should give some extra weight to Shaw being black. There are now only two black NFL Head Coaches - Mike Tomlin and Anthony Lynn - after Vance Joseph, Todd Bowles, and Steve Wilks were are fired. Ron Rivera is the only non-white HC in the NFC.

[OutsiderFan]

Shaw's name has been mentioned in the speculation regarding the head coach jobs for the Broncos and the Jets. Shaw also has come up in the general context of college coaches who would be attractive to NFL teams.

For example -- 

http://1043thefan.com/2079112/broncos-he...ankings-1/

https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/12-coaches-.../300283964

https://www.profootballweekly.com/2018/1...t/axmrhy8/

My belief Shaw wouldn't be an option was based on an ESPN report that threw out possibilities for all current NFL HC vacancies.  I didn't see David Shaw's name mentioned with any of them, but did see Harbaugh, Fitzgerald and Kelly's name mentioned in that report.

I guess I should give some extra weight to Shaw being black. There are now only two black NFL Head Coaches - Mike Tomlin and Anthony Lynn - after Vance Joseph, Todd Bowles, and Steve Wilks were are fired. Ron Rivera is the only non-white HC in the NFC.