[82lsju]

You can increase the TV exposure, but at the expense of kick-off time convenience and consequently attendance.  You can push towards better kick-off times, but at the expense of exposure and the TV payout. Etc.

I don't see where the SEC, B1G, or B12 have had to make that compromise.

well they have made small compromises, and of course they have the advantage of having teams in the Eastern and Central time zones.  The B1G and B12 do have games that start at 11am CT.  The SEC has noon PT starts.   So to get those time slots on TV we could have 9am kickoffs.....which given the dislike here for even 1pm kick-offs (I'm fine with 1pm kick-offs) and the poor turnout at the UCDavis (?) 11am kick-off (yes it was UCDavis so not necessarily representative of attendance at a desirable conference game) I don't think 9am games will be popular with ticket buyers, but who knows, the game would be over by 1pm and you could have the afternoon available for other activities....

[82lsju]

You can increase the TV exposure, but at the expense of kick-off time convenience and consequently attendance.  You can push towards better kick-off times, but at the expense of exposure and the TV payout. Etc.

I don't see where the SEC, B1G, or B12 have had to make that compromise.

well they have made small compromises, and of course they have the advantage of having teams in the Eastern and Central time zones.  The B1G and B12 do have games that start at 11am CT.  The SEC has noon PT starts.   So to get those time slots on TV we could have 9am kickoffs.....which given the dislike here for even 1pm kick-offs (I'm fine with 1pm kick-offs) and the poor turnout at the UCDavis (?) 11am kick-off (yes it was UCDavis so not necessarily representative of attendance at a desirable conference game) I don't think 9am games will be popular with ticket buyers, but who knows, the game would be over by 1pm and you could have the afternoon available for other activities....

[indiancardinal]

PAC 12 live stream

Hey martyup... hope this link works.
If you are still in the UAE, would love to meet up. Shall PM you.

[indiancardinal]

PAC 12 live stream

Hey martyup... hope this link works.
If you are still in the UAE, would love to meet up. Shall PM you.

[BostonCard]

You can increase the TV exposure, but at the expense of kick-off time convenience and consequently attendance.  You can push towards better kick-off times, but at the expense of exposure and the TV payout. Etc.

I don't see where the SEC, B1G, or B12 have had to make that compromise.

The SEC's kick-off times this week:
Alabama/Miss State (noon EST/9 AM PST)
Florida/Missouri (noon EST/9 AM PST)
Georgia/Aubrn (3:30 EST/12:30 PST)
Kentucky/Vanderbilt (3:30 EST/12:30 PST)
LSU/Ole Miss (7 pm EST/4 pm PST)
South Carolina/TAMU (7:30 pm EST/4:30 pm PST)

The Pac-12 kick-off times this week are:
Stanford/WSU (1:30 PST/4:30 EST)
ASU/OSU (4:30 PST/7:30 EST)
UCLA/Utah (5 pm PST/8 PM EST)
Arizona/Oregon (7:30 PST/10:30 EST)
USC/CAl (8 pm PST/11 pm EST)

Basically, both the SEC and Pac-12 fit their games in three time windows:
An early time window between noon and 1 local (SEC 2 games, Pac-12 1 game)
A middle time window between 3:30 and 5 local time (SEC 2 games, Pac-12 2 games)
A late time window between 7 and 8 local time (SEC 2 games, Pac-12 2 games)

The only real difference is the time zone that the game is played in.  A late game (7:30/8) in the Pacific time zone means a very late kick-off on the east coast and an after midnight ending.  This obviously sucks if you are a Pac-12 fan and live on the East Coast.  On the other hand, if you are an SEC fan living on the West Coast, get ready to tailgate at 8 am for a 9 am kick-off, if that is what you do.  In the days before a gazillion TV channels looking for content, there were probably more SEC games kicking off a little later, and probably few at noon (especially in the early fall).  But television channels have to get their games in, and spread them out so you can watch football from noon to well after midnight, so that has pushed SEC games earlier, and it has pushed Pac-12 games later.

And as far as payout, remember both the SEC and Big10 gave up half of their conference television channels in order to get that better distribution.  It probably was worth it for them, but I don't think it can be said that they didn't compromise.

BC

[BostonCard]

You can increase the TV exposure, but at the expense of kick-off time convenience and consequently attendance.  You can push towards better kick-off times, but at the expense of exposure and the TV payout. Etc.

I don't see where the SEC, B1G, or B12 have had to make that compromise.

The SEC's kick-off times this week:
Alabama/Miss State (noon EST/9 AM PST)
Florida/Missouri (noon EST/9 AM PST)
Georgia/Aubrn (3:30 EST/12:30 PST)
Kentucky/Vanderbilt (3:30 EST/12:30 PST)
LSU/Ole Miss (7 pm EST/4 pm PST)
South Carolina/TAMU (7:30 pm EST/4:30 pm PST)

The Pac-12 kick-off times this week are:
Stanford/WSU (1:30 PST/4:30 EST)
ASU/OSU (4:30 PST/7:30 EST)
UCLA/Utah (5 pm PST/8 PM EST)
Arizona/Oregon (7:30 PST/10:30 EST)
USC/CAl (8 pm PST/11 pm EST)

Basically, both the SEC and Pac-12 fit their games in three time windows:
An early time window between noon and 1 local (SEC 2 games, Pac-12 1 game)
A middle time window between 3:30 and 5 local time (SEC 2 games, Pac-12 2 games)
A late time window between 7 and 8 local time (SEC 2 games, Pac-12 2 games)

The only real difference is the time zone that the game is played in.  A late game (7:30/8) in the Pacific time zone means a very late kick-off on the east coast and an after midnight ending.  This obviously sucks if you are a Pac-12 fan and live on the East Coast.  On the other hand, if you are an SEC fan living on the West Coast, get ready to tailgate at 8 am for a 9 am kick-off, if that is what you do.  In the days before a gazillion TV channels looking for content, there were probably more SEC games kicking off a little later, and probably few at noon (especially in the early fall).  But television channels have to get their games in, and spread them out so you can watch football from noon to well after midnight, so that has pushed SEC games earlier, and it has pushed Pac-12 games later.

And as far as payout, remember both the SEC and Big10 gave up half of their conference television channels in order to get that better distribution.  It probably was worth it for them, but I don't think it can be said that they didn't compromise.

BC

[martyup]

Thanks IndianCardinal.  It works with my VPN connected to the Hong Kong servers. :=)

[martyup]

Thanks IndianCardinal.  It works with my VPN connected to the Hong Kong servers. :=)